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Eyewitness says bikers went after Alexian Lien’s wife Rosalyn Ng.

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Alexian Lien’s wife, Rosalyn Ng and her husband.

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A witness has come forth to tell that the bikers had also sought to come after Alexian Lien‘s wife, Rosalyn Ng after the family were cornered and ransacked by the bikers.

In a report via pix11, the witness, a man who had helped the family this past Sunday, went on to tell officials that the bikers were also after Alexian Lien’s wife, Rosalyn Ng after believing Lien was dead and how badly Lien had been beaten up.

Told State Senator Adriano Espaillat who has since gone on to give authorities a new incriminating video of the bikers acting menacingly hours before the Alexian Lien incident:

“They were driving on the sidewalk, people in these restaurants for brunch were forced to run into the restaurants many of them because, they felt they would be run over,” 

“They were really beating this guy up. And they wanted to get to the wife.”

Alexian Lien’s wife, who says the couple were out celebrating their anniversary went on to release a statement yesterday morning telling the following:

“Our sympathies go out to the injured motorcyclist and his family. However, we were faced with a life-threatening situation. Our fear for our lives was confirmed when the incident ended with the ruthless and brutal attack on my husband, me, and, most importantly, our two-year-old child.”

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Alexian Lien’s wife with the family child at the scene of Sunday’s beating.

 

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77 COMMENTS

  1. The smashing of the SUV side mirror and the water bottle throwing are two seldomly discussed details of this incident. Both are telltales that Lien may be at fault too.

  2. Aggravated assault is also a legal term…..Unfortunately, for you it becomes moot when you are defending your life and those of your family….Idiot

  3. Everyone pleads “Not Guilty” idiot………even ones who have confessed…You need to familiarize yourself with the justice system, because you sound just like a jackass !

  4. Why don’t we stick with facts?
    1. Lien ran over someone that was part of a large group that may or may not be contemplating doing great bodily harm to him and/or his family.

    2. Edwin was standing in front of Lien’s car with or without the intention to block Lien’s way.

    3. Cruz can be clearly seen in front of Lien (previous incident by the bikers are unsubstantiated – not proven by any credible source)

    4. The act of running over someone intentionally – does that ALWAYS constitute Vehicular homicide? Fortunately or unfortunately no – this is a fact since you want to talk on a strictly factual point.

    5. If you do not believe the police report that the tires are slit before Lien took off, How can you believe Edwin wasn’t part of the gang? Neither one, according to your logic, have no proof – even though I think most people would agree that the police report of slightly more credible in this case. Then again,

    Those are the facts we know – enough to know that the bikers broke the law. Enough to know that legally intentionally running someone over necessitate vehicular homicide.

    So Robert, talking on strictly factual basis, there is still no reason for you to be speculating that “Edwin was trying to diffuse the situation.” or “Lien have road rage problem” because neither one of those statement goes against your philosophy, right? Break it down to bare essentials, people don’t need SUVs, or Motorcycles for that matter. so the bikers might as well be driving an SUV, right?

  5. Neither of them would accept cell phones and other consumer “goods” as fundamental human needs.

  6. Clearly, any obsession is entirely on you part, as you have claimed to be wasting your time but persist never-the-less in your continued willful misrepresentations and distortions, straw man arguments, and irrationalities – as you have done once again here.

    I have no idea who you are, as you hide like most internet cowards under the cloak of anonymity, so I can hardly have reason for a “vendetta” against a non-entity.

    The pertinent issue in this discussion, however, has always been the prejudicial conclusions of the majority of respondents, with your comments being emblematic and unrelenting in that regard, prior to any full knowledge of the facts and circumstances. That is the definition of a lynch mob.

  7. I was hopeful that your unrelenting obsession to vilify will abate sufficiently to allow you to regain some composure. Obviously, I was too optimistic.

    But you make a valid point. Given that you have successfully corrupted our discussion to suit your own personal vendetta and are unwilling to focus on the pertinent issues, I will no longer read or respond to your posts.

    Have a pleasant night.

  8. You have repeatedly committed the abhorrent crime of prejudice, right here in this thread, making you a true lowlife.

  9. If you perceive it as “a colossal waste of time”, why are you obsessively compelled to continue wasting it?

    The one who cannot help but repeat himself ad infinitum and the one wasting his own time is clearly YOU. But you are just as clearly incapable of ceasing to indict yourself with your perseverating.

  10. And those thugs charged are not the “working poor”. I was once the working poor being part of a kitchen crew and a farmhand but never committed crimes. They are not part of decent America, rich or poor.

  11. Not Alex Lien. He works for a company that actually provides a service people need, not a financial institution.

  12. It seems that you are now either incapable or unwilling to engage in intelligent discourse. I have rarely come upon an individual so infatuated with demonizing someone.

    Go ahead and repeat yourself once again. This is truly becoming a colossal waste of time.

  13. Once again, you project your own intellectual weaknesses.

    You have just made a claim about me without substantiating it. And you cannot do so, because the claim has no substance.

    The proof of your prejudice and dislogic is in your own comments, as it is in this last one. I merely pointed them out, described them, and contrasted them with legal principles which you were clearly ignorant of.

    The truth remains to be learned, once all the facts are known. As I’ve already made clear, my “agenda” is merely to shine a light on falsehood, illogic, irrationality, and prejudicial conclusions – all of which you have offered in abundance.

  14. This entire discussion began with assertions you made but deliberately refused to substantiate, and yet you are now accusing me of the same. How typical.

    It is futile to accuse others of being prejudiced or illogical without proof and yet you are clearly obsessed with this line of thought. It is evident that you are uninterested in discovering the truth, but only in perpetuating some unknown agenda.

  15. I have been responding directly to the substance and style of your comments. A discussion is an organic thing, except to those who are obsessed with control.

    I am not “casting you” in any light, but merely reflecting the rather poor quality light that you’ve chosen to cast here. I get no joy in this, but you once again make unwarranted assumptions based entirely on your own projected weaknesses.

    The purpose served by shining a light on error and prejudice is to allow space for truth to emerge. But, clearly, you are as afraid of the truth as you are unable to admit your failures of perception, logic, judgement and honesty.

    The only virtue you seem to demonstrate is persistence, but persistence in error is one of the greatest of human foibles.

  16. Not only are you clearly no psychologist, you are just as clearly not an educator, as you have yet to lead yourself out of the cave of shadows, ignorance and prejudice.

  17. Your attempts at digressing from the focus of our discussion are quite remarkable – and you accuse me of intellectual dishonesty!

    Mieses got off his bike and initially proceeded to walk towards the vehicle. What happened after that is an open question. How is it relevant to Mr. Lien’s decision to flee the mob that was assaulting his vehicle? That Mieses was run over is not at issue – I made that clear in my last post.

    You may continue to cast me in any light you please as it seems to bring you great joy. Unfortunately, it serves no other useful purpose.

  18. Is this a response by a calm and dispassionate individual? This is hilarious. If your intent was to prove my point, then job well done!

    You are free to continue making whatever claims you wish about me or anyone else without substantiation if it pleases you. I am no psychologist, but it appears to be the manner in which you hide behind your own deficiencies.

    Again, best of luck to you.

  19. You must have abysmally deficient reading comprehension skills, as I’ve defended nobody.

    I am exposing those, like yourself, who have rushed to judgement long before all the facts are known.

    If we substitute YouTube justice for the constitutionally-mandated legal system in which everyone is considered innocent until proven otherwise, then we have degenerated into social anarchy.

  20. Like the few other deniers, you’ve conveniently forgetten that THEY STOPPED LIEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A GODSDAMNED 55 MPH HIGHWAY! THEY FAKED AN ACCIDENT TO DO THAT! THEY SLASHED HIS TIRES! THEY BEGAN WHAMMING ON THE VEHICLE!

    Any reasonable person would realize their family’s life is at risk of being murdered by a psycho biker gang, and get the hell out of there. Even if it means mowing down some of the perps standing in front of you ON A 55 MPH HIGHWAY!

    I don’t understand how anyone can defend these criminals, unless you closed your eyes while the video played.

  21. Of course you don’t see your profound bias, your deep prejudice, your outright distortions, and your irrational conclusions. They are merely the atmosphere which you breath and are invisible to you.

    But there is no innuendo in my commentary. I simply and directly call a spade a spade, and you are one rather dull spade.

  22. This would not be evident at all to an objective observer. Your insistence in embedding personal innuendo within your discourse is hardly a reflection of a calm and dispassionate individual.

    You have made claims that you have been unable to substantiate and refuse to acknowledge the fact. I don’t see my rhetoric as being overheated – it can be rather useful in conveying a message.

  23. The evidence suggests that Mieses was walking AWAY from the Range Rover at the time he was run over.

    But facts and evidence do not matter to one who has prejudicially determined guilt and innocence.

    You continue to dig yourself deeper into a hole with every comment.

  24. The people with the longest record of criminal behavior work on Wall Street, in corporate offices and in DC.

    Those wealthy enough to drive a Range Rover almost always secured their wealth on the backs of the working poor. They are America’s “legal” criminal class.

  25. As is evident to any objective observer, I’m responding calmly and dispassionately, while your apparently overheated rhetoric is rapidly degenerating into incoherence.

  26. Oh there is no twisting of facts on my part, but you are free to believe it if it makes you happy. And there may well be some profound intellectual dishonesty here, but not where you believe it is.

    This discussion is not about those who did not participate in this assault. We are talking of those thugs who attacked the vehicle, endangering the family inside. We are talking of the circumstances which led to Mr. Lien’s decision, whether they were well-considered or made in a moment of panic.

    Whether the biker who was run over was involved or not is not the issue. It is doubtful that Mr. Lien was specifically targeting him when he made the decision to flee. The biker happened to have parked his motorcycle directly in front of the SUV and was apparently approaching it at the time.

  27. Alexian Lien was the only person among those named who has NO criminal record. Mieses, Sims, Chance, Cruz – All have histories. If all people were like Lien, America will not go down as fast as it does now and would even go up. It is people like Mieses, Sims, Chance, Cruz and all those who tolerate them who are making America spiral downward.

  28. Are you referring to your bizarre test advocating the maniacal belief of unsubstantiated claims?

    Go ahead and continue to scream fervently at the top of your lungs. Best of luck to you.

  29. None of us know what preceded or precipitated the apparent attack on the SUV. We DO know that the bike rally included a wide variety of people, including as many as six off-duty police officers, and that the overwhelming majority of them did not participate in the assault.

    And we know as a simple fact that Lien chose to run over a man who may not have been involved in any improper activity at the time.

    Your continuing twisting of the facts and my statements to mean something that they do not displays, beyond any shadow of a doubt, your profound intellectual dishonesty.

  30. You mean it doesn’t make it acceptable to you, even if demonstrably true.

    As an educator, you’ve failed this test.

  31. Indeed, those who were slashing the vehicle’s tires, battering it with their helmets and attempting to force open the doors prior to Mr. Lien’s decision to flee are indeed deserving of such characterization.

    Your vehement disdain at such a characterization of these individuals is quite revealing, as is your declaration of Mr. Lien’s guilt without having all the evidence.

  32. Your straw man arguments are the issue, in addition to your obvious prejudice.

    “Guilty” is a legal term. That he engaged in the criminal activity of aggravated assault is beyond question.

  33. Except in Stand Your Ground states (a hotly contested legal principle), the law requires that the accused offer an affirmative defense, demonstrating in a court of law that there was legal justification for what would otherwise be an act of criminal violence. And, even in SYG states, the accused must request a judicial hearing to establish immunity from prosecution.

    But, as any awake and aware person knows, District Attorneys make decisions based both on law and on politics. Given the premature outpouring of public support for the Liens, such as your clearly prejudicial opinions, and given that he is an upper middle class businessman alleging a threat from those whom many (yourself included) prejudicially assume to be “thugs”, any DA would be very hesitant to bring charges, particularly after Lien was subsequently the victim of an assault and battery, even if minor compared to his aggravated assault on an apparently innocent man (who, by the way, has also NOT been charged with any crime).

  34. The interviews I have seen in news reports are not easy to find – they may not even be available online. However, this should not be necessary in order for us to engage in a meaningful debate.

    But you continue to fail to see I have no difficulty with you choosing not to accept my claims as evidence. The assumption that one is prejudiced until proven otherwise is the issue. Your assumption that Mr. Lien is guilty until proven innocent is the issue.

  35. The law does not immediately presume that the Liens’ response was unreasonable without first having all the evidence. This is precisely what you have done.

  36. As an academic, you should know that assertions require citations of sources.

    That you’re not willing to cite your sources, and your insistence that I accept them as true, indicates that you are unwilling to engage on honest debate.

  37. You must truly be a very poor educator, as you either ignorantly or deliberately turn the law on its head, and categorize a collective of individuals pejoratively without full knowledge of the circumstances.

    Self-defense, as an affirmative defense to homicide or aggravated assault, needs to be established by the claimant as a reasonable response to a threat, using no more than the minimum necessary force. Simply being afraid of strangers does not constitute such proof.

  38. Just because you have not been watching all the interviews, does not mean that I need to waste my time proving that these interviews took place. It is arrogant of you to expect me to fill you in on all the details I have learned, or to insinuate that I am lying if I do not do so.

    It is a shame that you choose to converse with other human beings in this manner: you assume they are prejudiced unless they prove otherwise. You assume guilt until proven innocent.

    Well, good luck to you then. It is clear that I have been wasting my time.

  39. Actually, since we don’t know all the circumstances, you are being prejudicial in convicting Mr. Lien.

    They are indeed thugs as they were assaulting the vehicle and intimidating not only the Liens, but other motorists as well as shown in some footage taken prior to this incident.

    Go ahead and try to prove that the Liens did not feel threatened.

  40. I’ve read every news article I can find on this incident, and nowhere have I read that the bikers have admitted to anything other than Chance acknowledging that he hit the SUV with his helmet and then rode off.

    All other defendants are pleading not guilty, so it’s highly unlikely that they would have admitted anything.

    Unless you can post reliable links to news reports supporting your allegations, I will continue to call you out as prejudiced.

  41. Not true. If a group of thugs intent on violence pose a threat to the lives of you and your family, and the only way to escape that threat is by driving through that threat, you are not necessarily deemed to have committed a crime. The police stated as much during one of their many interviews. Guilt depends upon the circumstances.

  42. Not true. I am stating that the bikers themselves have admitted to assaulting the vehicle, slashing its tires and attempting to gain access. How is it in the biker’s interest to falsely admit to this? Explain to us why you are refuting what they themselves have admitted? If their statements are not acceptable to you, then whose statements are you willing to accept?

  43. Willfully driving over a man’s body is criminal behavior in any jurisdiction. Whether the facts and evidence eventually determine that his desperate and panicked behavior was justified, in no way diminishes his culpability for Mieses’ crippled body.

  44. If you’re an educator, you should be fired, as you are clearly misrepresenting interested party statements as facts.

  45. I run a successful business and employ people. I pay heaps of taxes. I contribute to my fellow human beings and society. Non-contributors like Mieses, SIms, Chance and Cruz are a negative presence. They not only NOT contribute, they also cause problems.

  46. Yes you are indeed coming to judgement. You posted earlier that both sides were engaged in criminal behavior. Mr Lien has not been charged with any crime and yet you have judged him guilty.

  47. I am not dismissing all other statements as lies, so there is no prejudice here, at least not on my part. The bikers have admitted to slashing the tires and attempting to force open the doors. They have admitted to assaulting the vehicle.

    Look in the mirror and determine who is denying the facts.

  48. The police were not present (except the off-duty officers who did nothing) at the time of the initial highway incident, so the police report is nothing more than the statement of the Liens.

    If you accept their statements as “fact” and dismiss all other statements as lies, then your prejudice is clear.

  49. The police report states definitively that the tires had been slashed prior to Mr. Lien attempting to escape. The thugs were attempting to break into his vehicle to assault him, which left him no choice but to drive over those attempting to prevent his escape. You seem to have very little knowledge of the facts which have been widely reported.

    Many of these bikers, including the injured biker, have lengthy criminal records. The two bikers who assaulted Mr. Lien, Reginald Chance and Robert Sims, are career criminals. One of them was close to being handed a 25 year prison sentence not long ago.

    You would sit idly by and do nothing while your terrified wife and two year old child are in the car being attacked?

  50. Right, the same people who ‘claim’ he was protecting the driver, are the ones who have long rap sheets, attacked and slashed his car? You call us speculators, its not like you were there either!

  51. The bikers arrested and this Mieses guy are worthless people. Just look at their profiles and criminal records. Even if they all die it’s not like the world will be missing them.

  52. Judgement requires a full knowledge of the facts of an incident. Leaping to unsubstantiated conclusions is the definition of prejudice.

  53. Mr. Lien was defending himself and his family. Using any weapon for self-defense at the time of attack, in this case, his SUV, is lawfully justified and should not be called into question. While you may have logic, but you clearly have zero judgment.

  54. You’re speculating without knowing the facts. The right front tire may very well have been shredded from running over three motorcycles. There are claims that the man he ran over was tying to defuse the situation and was returning to his bike with his back to the SUV at the time he was brutally run over.

    Sorry, but if you deliberately run your car over the back of another person, then you are guilty of, at least, aggravated assault.

  55. He used his car as a means of escape, unfortunately that means it was at the same time a weapon. Let’s say the brake check “accident” was a rear end with him at fault. He stopped. It did not call for the bikers to swarm his vehicle and start attacking it (hitting it, trying to break in, slashed tires – the passenger side front rim is completely exposed after 2 miles, it doesn’t come off when an SUV is at a standstill). Once you reach that last point, his thought isn’t “Oh I will stay here for them to do God knows what.” It’s “GET OUT OF HERE.”

  56. Your logic is as poor as your judgement.

    That he was attacked AFTER nearly killing a biker does not mean that he was about to be attacked BEFORE he chose to use his car as a deadly weapon.

  57. Nah, he won’t be charged. Surrounded, blocked and stopped in the middle of a busy 55 MPH highway? By a bunch of aggressive hoods? Nope, but even if Lien was charged, no jury in the city will convict him.

    Mieses’s biker gang buddies created the threatening circumstances by which Lien reasonably believed his and his family’s lives were in danger -and he later found out how correct he was. They beat him to a pulp, knifed him and left him for dead.

    Bunch of thugs, throw the book at them.

  58. The bikers are the clear instigators in this case.
    They were out in mass crowd ready to start of a fight.

    Low life, uneducated, adrenaline junkies. Pathetic. And now they have the nerve to attack a woman and child? FUCKING ASSHOLES!!

  59. “OH He is an angel! He just wanted to kindly park his bike and stand in front of the SUV to ask Mr. Lien and his family for forgiveness! He wanted to help his friend up because he broke his legs upon impact and couldn’t walk so that they could all kindly exchange insurance information. A “family” man like “Meezee” would NEVER hurt anyone!”

    “The cracked passenger mirror? Oh there was a large bug that was sitting there I didnt want it to sting the poor child in the backseat.”

    “The slashed tires? Oh I wanted to make sure Mr Lien wouldn’t try to flee while my kind loving friends went to exchange some “info.””

    “The dents all around the car? We’ll we were just making sure the body of the vehicle was sound and fit for the highway.”

    “*cry cry sob sob sniff sniff* Look at this picture of my Meezee on the hospital bed. Doesn’t it just jerk on your heart strings, aww he is such a poor innocent soul. Look look look, everyone look.”

    THESE SCUMBAGS MAKE ME SO SICK….

  60. I believe Lien was ordered to pull over by the 911 dispatcher in a public place on purpose because the rover had already run the front right tire down to the rim. This was the smartest thing to do because if they had stopped on the highway… witnesses would have been easily blocked off and Lien, his wife and daughter may have been killed. The decision to pull into a crowded public place SAVED THE FAMILY’S LIVES.

  61. These biker gangs are absolute LIARS and need to be locked up. They didn’t care and wanted to kill the driver, his wife and kids. They destroyed and bashed in every window, even where his kids sat. They harassed this family for miles on the road, slashing and punching windows in this SUV multiple times, and they wonder why the SUV didn’t stop the car to sit around and be attacked further? As if they wanted to exchange insurance info? The Lien family called 911 multiple times! They all would’ve ended up DEAD by these thugs if they stop and waited! The bikers instigated the entire incident and Cruz had no reason to stop other to purposely cause an accident and file insurance fraud. It’s captured on video and pictures.

    And now these thugs hired Allred lawyer because their lies stink too much, Mieses has no valid driver license – suspended since the 1990s-2017, and arrested for use of drugs. The only way they can see a way to twist the story is to paint these thugs as ‘angels/father/son’ to get the Lien family to pay for their medical bills. Sorry, but they had no sympathy for man getting slashed and beaten left to died in the middle of the street w/his family watching!

    I hope they dont get a single penny from the hardworking Lien family, and that the Lien family can recover from this scary incident.

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