Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega grand indicted to serve the rest of her life in jail.
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega was stressed out about money. Did the Krim family hold out…?
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega now believed to have been motivated by money, but wont confess…
Marina Krim’s nanny’s Facebook page now insists that Marina Krim killed her children.
Marina Krim too remain tight lipped. Refuses to address nanny’s allegations…
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega insists she was the one abused and mistreated.
Martina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega now formally charged with first degree murder.
Marina Krim’s nurse Yoselyn Ortega to be arraigned from hospital bed. Still wont speak…
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega now hires lawyer. Still not talking to cops.
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega thought to have resented her employers…
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega refuses to cooperate with authorities.
Did Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega have a motive?
Why did a Manhattan nanny stab Marina Krim’s two children to death?
The latest revelations pertaining to the murder of Marina and Kevin Krim’s two children Leo and Lulu Krim last week reveals that family nanny Yoselyn Ortega was upset that she was asked to clean up and do extra house work.
Aware that she was undergoing financial hardship and the strain already showing in her day to day demeanor the Krim family offered to alleviate Ortega’s duress by offering her an extra five hours of work a week. Work which would involve her tending to general cleaning and housework around the house. Yet that it seems only aggravated Ortega who increasingly came to resent her employer who she perceived to be living a life of luxury whilst she lived a life where she struggled to barely just make ends meet.
Said Ortega : “I’m paid to watch the children, not clean up and do housework.’
The offer for more hours came after the Krim family went so far as introducing her to a new family who were in the market for a nanny but at the last moment declined to take on Ms Ortega due to what has been reported her combative and sour demeanor. Something that the Krim family it is said were by now aware of.
Said authorities who interviewed Ortega: ‘There was friction between her and the family.’
Despite being offered extra hours Ortega griped that the hours would interfere with doctor’s appointments on top of her feeling slighted that any new hours would relegate her to a cleaning lady.
It is also understood Ms Ortega had in recent months been forced to move out of a residence and move in with her sister as her financial woes mounted and the sublet she had taken over expired.
Last week, the mother of CNBC executive Kevin Krim said that the young family treated Ortega, as they would one of their own, ‘bending over backwards’ to help her and even buying plane tickets so she could fly to the Dominican Republic with them.
Authorities have also revealed that Ms Ortega had been warned that if she didn’t improve her work that she would be let go. Something that obviously didn’t sit too well with the nanny who was begin to feel overwhelmed by her financial situation and had begun to blame the Krim family.
Since regaining consciousness after a failed attempt at her own life Ms Ortega has only asked about her family but not that of the Krim family, heightening assertions that there was indeed friction between herself and the Krim family. It was also revealed that Ms Ortega has since hired a defense attorney.
At present Ms Ortega has yet to be charged with the deaths of the two children but is expected to be arraigned from her hospital bed.
And then there was this comment below which made me think:
Regardless of terrible murders … – i don’t think it’s a very good idea to get that close with your “help” … treating help almost like family.. go on the same trips with them etc…
For most normal people it’s no problem .. – but for some coo-coos Jealousy etc can come into play some day … — they might start feeling that they are family .. when they are NOT … and some day reality comes into play …. and those who are psychologically messed up .. who knows what kind of weird / bad things they can do some day..
kids are more likely to be abused, especially sexually abused, or murdered by a close relative than by a stranger or nanny/babysitter. the truth is, one does not truly know ANYONE. part of the tragedy for the parents (i’m sure) is knowing that they trusted this woman with their previous children, a decision they will have to live with forever. my heart breaks for them.
I agree with @sincerely re: what were the conditions under which Ms. Ortega worked? Despite the ignorance in some of these posts, we have heard she did all that she could to alleviate her financial situation: she took care of the children, and additionally, tried to sell Avon, Jewelry, cooked dinners. Anyone who is asking for prayers for the return of $100 she is owed, is not lazy or resentful. But it might be hard to know that you are scraping by, working for an entitled employer who pays you a small wage for big important work and then pays 4 times as much for a RENTAL residence while the family income is in the millions! from the comments here, added to those (allegedly of Marina), it seems Ms. Ortega should have been grateful to be “taken” on vacation to DR. I dont believe that story. Employers who pay for their maids to go with them do so when they cant cope with their own children on their own home turf; and therefore would not be willing to deal with the inconveniences in a strange place. it is not vacation; it is work! The rich/ and wannabe hangers-on, get a language in their mouths and an idea in their heads that slavery is nOT over and they own the employee, their labor and their thoughts. They cAn be very nice as long as you “know your place” and not show any displeasure or reaction to their disrespect, rudeness or poor manners – irrespective of your education, circumstances, age, or being “family”, good employees, good producers. They might go off on you/ go cold/ rude/ condescending and spiteful (“if this is becoming too much for you, we can always find someone else”), and expect it to be o.k. when they calm down. It happens in businesses, boardrooms, offices and of course in the home where people like Ms. Ortega are much more vulnerable. Particularly in this economy and with the nasty previous subtleties of racism now unveiled, it must be hell when a maid is locked in with a nasty employer and can do nothing about her situation because of the financial pressures we all feel. She could no more walk out of her job than anyone else could and (were they rich enough to afford a nanny) if the “thoughts”, words and judgments expressed about Ms. Ortega here are anything to go by, the people who are so virulent on line are perhaps indicative of the world of hell this woman was part of, once the “family” facade was removed, as she herself battled personal problems and perhaps lived among the uncaring attitude of her employers. If there were misconceptions about family, it was clear that the Krims (via the blog) saw not only “Josie” but also her “josie’s” “familia” as wonderful and perhaps THEY expected the maid to be so thrilled about the rarified air of the wealthy that she should be eternally grateful to be among them…even if just as a maid working for a less-than-living wage..Talk about a sense of entitlement!. Imagine…this woman was “like Family” (translation >>she treated the children well and showed them love and care); then went crazy all of a sudden/ out of the blue murdering the children she loved and cared for for 2 years? (translation >> everyone else noted her change in demeanor, her harried look, her depression, her distress, her loss of weight, but her “family”/ employer perhaps did not/ ignored the change/ put more pressure on her)? Employers and their friends might have the pen and own the media, but they do not own the thoughts of thousands who see the other side of the coin: badly behaved women and men in positions of power who, everyday, time and time again, get away with behaving unkindly and threateningly. I don’t know what went wrong and whether the Krims were that kind of employers or who caused the tragic murder of these children nor do any of us know the horrible heart-rending details, but it did NOT come out of the blue. These women pass around information on “their” nannies and “girls” to their “friends” – so any news about ms. Ortega in the 2 yrs would have blocked or interrupted her employment by the Krims; they would have SEEN something. The children are the only innocent ones here and something is rotten in the state of Denmark….
@MOmKKK – read texaswoman below – you sound (WITH YOUR UPPERCASE SCREAMING) like an out of control someone/ one of those mothers who would be one of those statistics. Please calm down.
emma – I think you are a liar. You could not afford a nanny either from “another” race or the “brown” race or “yellow” or whatever…you have not even been to school long enough to know the difference between BRAKE and BREAK. all nannies are not the same anymore than all people are the same. Don’t judge people by what you yourself did when you were a maid.
i dont believe Lindsey2 had any nanny
When you are really stressed even the smallest request is like pushing a rock uphill.
Employees should have paid holidays and sick days. Mental health is as important as physical health.
I am interested to find out apart from her hourly wages whether she got paid sick days.
My heart goes out to the Krim family. They worked hard to have what they have in life and if this woman didn’t like it, she should have left the job and gone and done something else. It wasn’t their responsibility to take care of her. We are all responsible for our own choices and our own lot in life. I can’t imagine what the Krim’s are going through at this time but I hope they can find the strength to get through this nightmare and pull their lives back together again. May God bless them.
Someone told me that there are many many German tourists in DR in the same way that there are many Japanese tourists in Thailand so would THAT have something to do with how hostile the nanny became towards the Krims?
I grew up around hostile and envious adults as a toddler who felt I got too much attention from other adults so I am not surprised at all by the degree of hatred. But I am surprised that she was allowed near children in the first place because she looks like Diane Von Furstenberg and that is not what little kids like to look at. We like looking at Snow White basically not the scary lady with the apple.
Just curious, by “out of home”, do you mean something like a daycare center? Glad for advice from someone who’s tried lots of different things. 🙂
If you have kids and ever decide to engage a nanny think about your words. The person you engage should be happy, healthy and able to cope with life stressors. The reasons is because kids are very pliable. Whatever environment they grow up in they accept as normal. If your nanny is miserable or mean then they will look for life partners with those characteristics. How many kids of alcoholics end up marrying an alcoholic and try to save them from the drink?
I think out of home care is better. I have tried all options. I know that some families find after paying for childcare there is very little of the second wage and wonder if it is all worth it. Those are an individuals decision.
Not everyone has a choice. If people waited until they had a house paid off then they might never have kids.
I think the big concern for mothers whether working or stay at home is that they should feel secure about their kids.
I only asked you the questions because at some time it will be revealed exactly how much Mrs Ortega was paid and we will be able to judge whether it was enough.
As a parent, can you tell me how much quality time do you spend with your kids? Do you love them or just say you love them?
The costs of living it is not the point – it is the fact they had no problem paying for a luxury apartment at 11,000$, but got cheap when came to their kids caregiver. And a proper nanny is someone with qualifications (education, experience, security check) and a good reputation that can be proven. This costs $$ and it takes time.
Regarding your “there was not a shred of evidence”… – only if you are willfully blind. Everybody saw the nanny falling apart – EXCEPT for the family, huh? The very fact of using a person who is under so much stress that it affects their physical appearance (“she aged 7 years within few months”) is an obvious sign of mistreatment. This is just one of them.
And how come she could not afford her own apartment if she was paid (according to you) 50,000$ a year ? Not possible.
You are obviously either projecting your own guilt onto this situation or identify with the parents a little too much.
My sympathy is with the kids only and it always was. Selfish parents are the source of problems for everyone – children and the caregivers alike.
I read that police reports say that she is showing no remorse at all in the killing of the children, which means it was premeditated. If it was spur of the moment rage surely the reality would have sunk in by now. All she can say is that her job was beneath her? Really? I am glad that she survived and hope that she gets gang raped by large women in prison.
oh, so horrifying!
Exactly. But no one else seem to have noticed it ! it is a pity many people do not give a damn about learning re psychology & human behaviour in general. Many people I know don’t care about it, think it’s boring and that life is not about asking oneself too many questions…but it’s a question of life or death…
Kids died because of the immense, burning JEALOUSY of Ms. Ortega. Nothing to do with tiredness, or sudden crazyness. It is obvious she was hateful, just by a look at her photo while she is with the poor kids…
It’s very interesting that she won’t admit to the murders. I can’t help but wonder, what EXACTLY is the woman claiming? I came across the following post, earlier this week, when reading a related story:
Here’s the back story, it all makes sense:
This week financial news organization CNBC gave some mainstream attention to the largest money laundering and racketeering lawsuit in United States History, in which “Banksters” and their U.S. racketeering partners are being accused of laundering of 43 trillion dollars worth of ill gotten gains. The lawsuit is said to involve officials located in the highest offices of government and the financial sector.
Since this information was surprisingly revealed by the mainstream news organization there has been a very suspicious and deadly fallout at the CNBC headquarters. Within hours the original page for the article was taken down, and CNBC senior vice president Kevin Krim received news that his children were killed under very suspicious circumstances. It seems that the murder happened first and then the page was removed later.
According to mainstream accounts the children’s nanny is responsible for the murders, allegedly stabbing both children. However, those same mainstream news sources report the highly unlikely story that the nanny slit her own throat just after committing the homicides. Police have released very little information and although a wider plot has not been officially implicated, it seems very possible that these murders are a show of force against the press organization for releasing such damning information about the most powerful people in the world.
Here is some more information about the lawsuit from the Wall Street Journal:
“In the District Court lawsuit, Spire Law Group, LLP — on behalf of home owner across the Country and New York taxpayers, as well as under other taxpayer recompense laws — has expanded its mass tort action into federal court in Brooklyn, New York, seeking to halt all foreclosures nationwide pending the return of the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000.00) by the “Banksters” and their co-conspirators, seeking an audit of the Fed and audits of all the “bailout programs” by an independent receiver such as Neil Barofsky, former Inspector General of the TARP program who has stated that none of the TARP money and other “bailout money” advanced from the Treasury has ever been repaid despite protestations to the contrary by the Defendants as well as similar protestations by President Obama and the Obama Administration both publicly on national television and more privately to the United States Congress. Because the Obama Administration has failed to pursue any of the “Banksters” criminally, and indeed is actively borrowing monies for Mr. Obama’s campaign from these same “Banksters” to finance its political aspirations, the national group of plaintiff home owners has been forced to now expand its lawsuit to include racketeering, money laundering and intentional violations of the Iranian Nations Sanctions and Embargo Act by the national banks included among the “Bankster” Defendants. ”
Some of the alleged conspirators are Attorney General Holder, Assistant Attorney General Tony West, the brother in law of Defendant California Attorney General Kamala Harris, Jon Corzine (former New Jersey Governor), Robert Rubin (former Treasury Secretary and Bankster), Timothy Geitner, Treasury Secretary, Vikram Pandit (recently resigned and disgraced Chairman of the Board of Citigroup), Valerie Jarrett (a Senior White House Advisor), Anita Dunn (a former “communications director” for the Obama Administration), Robert Bauer (husband of Anita Dunn and Chief Legal Counsel for the Obama Re-election Campaign), as well as the “Banksters” themselves, and their affiliates and conduits.
It is expected that all news on this subject will be removed from CNBC, and that other news organizations will be discouraged from covering such information. However, screen shots of the original CNBC article were taken to verify the authenticity of this story.
Assassination and brute intimidation are common strategies for the ruling class to use on people who may threaten their agenda. This is the second situation this week in which a high level executive was the victim of a suspicious attack that seemed very much like an assassination. The Intel Hub just reported that Nicholas Mockford, a 60 year old British executive for the oil company ExxonMobil was shot dead in front of his wife in an assassination-style killing in Brussels. We will be keeping a close eye on both of these stories and provide more details as they become available.
I Really think it should be in consideration there Age Psychologically speaking MOST Women after there late 40’s Don’t have the same Patience with life issues , forget about it with Kids & more when they not even there family, I Seen it with my own Eyes, plus I talked this lady that I knew & know for years at this time she was 53 , very nice very religious, she told me something one day that I really Appreciate her Honesty, the Day I went to visit she use to babysit many kids all the time, she would not touch the kids but the way she was talking & the names she would called them was not right, she obviously notice my expression in my face due even if they not my kids I Love kids period I don’t Like it kills me any type of abuse towards them, she told me that she was thinking on to stop babysitting that she need it the money but she felt that she couldn’t do it anymore that she couldn’t hear there cry or there complaining to God to forgive her but she just couldn’t that even they playing & laughing was aggravating , forget if she had to clean there diapers or when they were patty training she said the smell was to strong, Horroble that her stomach was Not strong enough that she felt like vomiting she hated it , & that she felt really bad about it, it’s so Wrong But at least she stop doing it she spoke about it, Idk what was in the mind on the demon killing those 2 kids but it should deff be considered the Nanny’s Age too, & every parent should have cameras in there house there’s so much technology out there now that u can check on ur kids & house even if not there, again my Deepest Condolences to the Krims family 🙁
No, you are missing the point. The sense of entitlement and greed that animate the lives of rich people, ought to cause more atrocities than we have seen so far.
This is why I stay home with my kids, even though I have a PhD and losing my salary is financially difficult for us. Sometimes I wonder if I’m paranoid, since I don’t trust someone else to care for them. I especially struggle with trusting a single-carer (no accountability) vs. a care center (where at least other carers are watching, too). This story is confirmation that the best way to protect your kids is to be with them…
You are a idiot.. a lot of the people here are missing the point. I don’t care if the family paid her pennies the nanny had no right to hurt the babies. And the family also tried to get her another nanny job and at the last minute the other family bailed because of the nanny’s demeanor.. The nanny is a MURDERER and I don’t care about her poor pathetic life…
I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START, BUT FIRST MY DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO THE KRIM’S FAMILY, THERE’S NO WORDS IN THIS WORLD THAT ANYONE CAN SAY TO MAKE THEM TO MAKE THEM FEEL ANY BETTER, THIS WAS SO HORRIFYING SO EVIL SO TRAUMATIZING, IT JUST DON’T HAVE A NAME, HOW CAN THE PIECE OF SHIT DID SOMETHING SO HORROFYING TO THOSE BEAUTIFUL KIDS ?!?!?!?! HOW CAN THE MF BE MAD AT HER MOTHER PARENTS OF FAMILY & TAKE IT ON THE KIDS & ON ONE OF THE MOST PAINFUL WAYS !!!!:-( !!!!!! THEY COULDN’T EVEN DEFEND THEM SELF :(!!!! B EVERY TIME I THINK OF THAT DEMON THING BECAUSE SHE’S NOT HUMAN DOING THAT TO THOSE KIDS I GET SICK TO MY STOMACH, I WILL LIKE TO SAY OF HOW SORRY I AM, I FEEL SO MUCH FOR THOSE 2 ANGELS I JUST HOPE THEY DIDN’T SUFFER TO MUCH, EVERY CULTURE HAS THERE GOOD & BAD PEOPLE BUT WTF IT’S WRONG WITH HER , A FAMILY THAT TREAT YOU LIKE FAMILY ASK YOU TO HELP CLEANING PAYING YOU SHE WAS STRUGGLING BUT THAT WRONG ?!?!!?! & STILL LET SAY THEY WERE BAD TO HER SHE COUULD OFF JUST LEAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AM FROM THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC & I JUST CAN’T BELIEVE SHE IS TOO AGAIN WE NOT THE BEST PEOPLE BUT NEITHER THE WORST !!!!!!! IT’S AN EMBARRESSMENT A DISGRACE, HORROFYING, DISGUSTING SHE’S DOMINICAN I HOPE WE ALL DON’T GET JUDGED BY HER, I HAVE 3 KIDS 6, 9 & 11 & THERE’S NOT ONE DAY I DON’T PRAY FOR THERE SAFETY, I HAD NEVER LIKE NANNYS WHEN I WAS PREGNANT I SAW SO MANY NEWS ABOUT NANNY’S BEEN BAD TO BABYS & KIDS I WAS TRAUMATIZE, SO THEY WILL STAY JUST WITH FAMILY OR VERY CLOSE FRIENDS & I PAYED REALLY GOOD, YES TO FAMILY & FRIENDS BUT WHEN THEY WERE LITTLE AM NOT RICH FAR FROM IT BUT I SAFE ENOUGH TO STAY HOME WITH THEM UNTIL THEY WERE BIG ENOUGH TO TELL ME IF SOMETHING WAS WRONG I GIVE THANKS TO GOD I WAS ABLE TO BE A HOME STAY MOM I HOPE SHE GETS THE WORST PUNISHINGMENT THERE COULD BE, I WISH I COULD TAKE JUSTICE IN MY HANDS !!!!!!!! I HOPE GOD BE WITH THOSE BEAUTIFUL 2 ANGELS & THERE PARENT’S & FAMILY :(!!!!!!
Ortega was so “well paid” that she couldn’t afford an apartment in the Bronx. The moment that people start to earn a living wage, they run away from the Bronx. Ortega gave up raising her own children, in order to raise the Krim children. That strikes me as hard and sad. Nannies have the least personal authority in this situation, less than that of the 2-year old. The response of the Krims to her personal distress, likely brought on by poverty, was to threaten and further humiliate her. Chasing after not one, but three small children wasn’t hard enough, Ortega had to be made to scrub toilets as well. If you beat a dog often enough, even a tame one will eventually bite.
You are disgusting. The mother of those beautiful children loved every minute with them—she blogged that the best part of her day was the time alone with her son when the girls were at school. It’s widely reported that she didn’t leave her kids with the nanny very often—Ortega was only there to help out. If I had three children, I’d do the same—it’s dangerous walking in the city with three kids.
And the Krims paid her good money, sent her home to DR when they went on family vacations. The Krims had a beautiful life that they had worked hard for, and their lives were shattered by an evil person with mental problems. They deserve all the sympathy in the world.
what an idiot.. cause first world country people are do drogs all the time and kill kids too u mooron
Mmmm…even so… qualificated people kills too, do u know that?
In every photo that I see of this woman Ortega she looks like a psychopath. I wouldn’t let her any where near my children, she looks creepy, really creepy.
Silver lining: The mother didn’t want to raise children or spend much money to have other people raise her children. Now she’s free of both obligations.
The problem is that this EVIL nanny will not be put to death and, for what she did, she should be put to death ASAP, as sad as it is to say that!
And this nanny is a mother herself!! Unbelievable she had the nerve to plan her evil murders despite the fact that she has a child!
And those who want to find excuses for this nanny to justify her murders of these children, don’t!!
If the Krim’s are super wealthy, why couldn’t they have just given the nanny a raise? I’m not saying that would’ve prevented the tragedy because she’s obviously a sadist, but it would’ve made the situation less volatile, which is of utter importance when dealing with a caregiver. Otherwise fire her if she’s getting “combative and sour”. I’m not blaming the Krim’s for what happened; it’s the nanny’s fault alone, and she would’ve breen prone to severe depression and anger anyway, because that’s just how she is. All I’m saying is she wouldn’t have been as desperate, and would’ve stayed on better terms with her employers.
I’m not into hating other human beings, and I believe this woman is insane to have done this, but I don’t see the point in having pain medication administered to her.
They Krims and Ortega did not always have friction in their relationship, it seems to have begun when Ortega, who sublet an apartment from an acquaintance who was supposed to move to the Dominican Republic returned after only 3 months and tossed Ortega out. Ortegas’ money problems were her main concern, but instead of doing something to make more she felt she should just do what she was doing and get better compensated for that. I have no idea what Ortega earned, but if she felt she was worth more doing that job she was certainly free to go find another home to work in. In fact, the Krims even found a possible new home but Ortega was so uncooperative they didn’t want her.
Too bad the Krims tried to work with Ortega and help her out. Anyone else might have appreciated it and no doubt there are plenty of people who have had similar bad luck and were not lucky enough to have employers like the Krims.
One would like to think that only a person who is mentally ill could do such a thing as kill another person, especially a child. However, we don’t know what Ms. Ortega is really like as a person. In fact, she might be a spiteful and vindictive person who wanted to punish her employers because they had an easier life due to their wealth. She also may have felt belittled because she is a trained “accountant” and now she is minding children and being asked to clean homes. Again, this might have been reason enough for her to harm the family. You are right to say that nannies don’t routinely envy their employers. In fact, being a trained nanny in some places, like England, is a respected profession which can bring lots of financial rewards and even some prestige in that you are not just a caretaker but the person the children look to for guidance and upbringing.
18 years ago, I secretly video taped my daughters nanny, because we became suspicious when after 4 months, she would still cry everytime we left home for work. The video tape was horrifying. The moment we left, TV Mundo would go on for the entire day, while my daughter just crawled around the room. We fired her the next day.
Some people have more ambition then that, and wish for their kids to share that ambition. Glad that is good enough for you but its not for me.
Little factoid for you, more children are killed each year by their own mothers then they are by child care professionals….
As a former nanny, can you tell us which city and could you give an idea of what you would earn in today’s market?
I wish that people would stop judging hard working mothers that hire help to care for their children. Nobody saw this coming, it was a terrible tragedy. Don’t you people know that more mothers murder their own children that nannies? My heart goes out for the Krims. Hopefully they never get to read this pointless ignorant judgmental comments.
A proper nanny would have some qualifications in that field. In Australia it is. 2 year course.
Yes I cried for Marina Krim too I have 2 kids ages 5 and 4 and I love them to death. Similar to Marina Krim, I cannot think of anything but my kids and their well being. I pray that Nessie will be a comfort for Kevin and Marina Krim. It’s hard but I am glad that they have one child that will be their motive to live and move on. I cannot think of how insane or cruel a person can be to slay such young lives. It’s just sad that such people exist. My prayers with Krims.
I totally agree with you so many nannies are paid cheap.labor and could care less about the kids its a front not all but a hell of a lot!
Wake up call stay at home moms rip angels.
As a woman married to a wonderful and top knotch Attorney I have to say hiring a nanny was never a subject or thought. Coming from a family who had nannies in Mexico is not all the sweet kind hype you hear. My family always asked us how did our nanny treat us was she being mean or lazy. So many women hire cheap labor don’t talk to their kids or the help and assume all is okay
People raise your own kids and stop putting your children at risk! The kids did not have a say so but were with a walking time bomb. I do not care what they say you don’t know a person from a thirld world country!
Maybe I’m misreading your comment but in this scenario you would deprive your remaining child, who already lost her two siblings of their mother??
I am not defending the nanny in any way but you should get your facts straight. The nanny did indeed have an accounting degree. She was unable to find work as an accountant. A lot of people are not in the best shape financially right now through no fault of their own. And a college degree does not guarantee a job and/or wealth. Of course financial difficulties, jealousy, resentment — whatever it was — is no justification for murder.
Also a mother who has had nannies who were like family, this is inconceivable and as you have all said, it is hard to shake- thinking and feeling what this poor mother is going through, every day, every minute that she misses her children- I have cried for her and those poor, sweet children who were probably so confused by this. I believe their spirits will be guiding their sister through life; always present- protecting her. I also wish justice comes to this evil woman- but what is a equitable punishment?
First of all, what makes you PRESUME the Krims didn’t pay Ortega well? You have absolutely no clue what she was paid. Is a nanny supposed to make $50,000 a year? Do you have any clue how much housing costs in NYC?
Secondly, why was Ortega not a “proper nanny?” Or does “proper” mean white to you?
Third, there’s no shred of evidence the Krim’s abused this nanny. They offered her more hours doing work she felt was beneath her. That’s HER problem. And it’s certainly not nanny abuse. They were naive and goodhearted to not fire her on the spot. I would have.
If you’re not sympathetic to two parents whose children were brutally murdered, you have SERIOUS issues.
you are an idiot.
#1 Take care of your own kids, and #2 If you must hire help to take care of your own kids, don’t be stingy with paying them and maybe they would be happy and not want to kill your kids.
It’s best to care for your own children. Other than immediate family or extended family members one does NOT REALLY KNOW a stranger.
The person who takes care of my kids is my grandmother who loves them as much as I do. Once I thought about a nanny until I saw a couple of them shopping with the kids and every time the kids wanted some attention the nannies would talk back to them with a terrible attitude. These nannies were brown skin and the kids were obviously from another race. Things like that brake my heart. Everyone was shocked. Those nannies maybe seem like a good, caring, loving ones but as soon as the parents of those kids leave them alone it becomes a nightmare for those little ones. The bad thing is that their ages are so young that they can’t even express themeselves to their parents.
It is unfortunate that kids were sacrificed (murdered) once again by adults working out their own issues. As much as I find these killings horrific, I am not all that sympathetic towards the parents.
Why people who can afford 11.000$ a month apartment can’t afford a proper nanny?
Don’t their kids deserve better?
Nanny abuse is so common that most don’t even notice it. It was like that with the slavery, right?
For those of you who have nannies, I have a question: Why would parents select a nanny from a third world country and not one from our own country? Serious question…not judging the Krim’s. Paying lower wages does not fit in this situation as they were well to do. Are U.S. born and raised nannies hard to come by?
I have three kids under the age of 7. It would have been horrifying to make a discovery like this. It would be impossible for me to contniue on after seeing something like that, I cannot empathize with Marina Krim because (god willing) I will never endure something so painful and agonizing. None of us can really. Hearing about this story just sends a flash of terror through the hearts and minds of all parents, a feeling of an almost indescribable sense of fear. Thoughts and prayers to the entire Krim family.
I can not stop my tears even after reading this Nanny story from last week. I do not know how Marina will be feeling now ….its the pain of a life time. I have too a 6 and a 2 year old and I leave my kids under the care of someone and go to office ……my heart is way too heavy these days…oh I can’t even think how I will live if anything happen to my kids…Marina, God give you some strength….
I agree. I have one child who is two. Ortega would have a slow.. painful and torturous death and I would savour every minute of it. And yes it would be by my hands.
I agree. I have three children. If I were Marina I would not be able to face the world again. I know she has to be there for Nessie. I have been so disturbed by this story I have had to resolve what i would do in my own mind. I would see to it that my sister or close family would raise my remaining child and I would not be able to go on living. So heartbroken for the Krim family. May they somehow find comfort. I wish Marina more strength than I could have.
I agree with you that the line between employee and “one of the family” was blurred. I think that may have led Nanny Ortega to have a sense of entitlement. She complained that she had financial problems, they offered to give her 5 hours of housework/week – and she was angry. This implies that she wanted more money for the same amount of work. The fact that they all stayed together in the D.R. with Ortega’s sister also blurred the line. She was an employee, and employers and employees don’t normally vacation together. Whatever was going on in her mind, I’m sure the Krims never saw this coming. And no matter what problems Ortega was experiencing, NOTHING mitigates the brutal murder of two children.
this woman is a despicable piece of trash and should be treated that way not as an individual of the human species. she had so many choices she could have taken, cutting the throat of defenseless children was not a desperate act of a depressed person but premeditated murder – she wanted revenge, she wanted to hurt the mother, she wanted to show that she has the power. I hope that her own family despises her – death penalty is not enough punishment for monsters like her.
Same here. I have kids similar ages, and I cannot shake this out of my head. Feel so much for the mother, no idea how you can move on. Also thought about the middle child asking for her brother and sister. Her life is forever messed up now, as well.
Well, I’d say you can pay your bills and have a roof over your head and have no idea of the stresses that the poor endure. Read down and out in pais and London by George Orwell.
Anyway, just to remind you if there is too big. Difference between rich and poor you get revolution of some sort.
You may not like paying for the poor but that is the price that comes with being rich.
Years ago I had a job working for a store that sold sterling silver items. I had planned to go overseas and gave my one weeks notice which was all that was required. I was allowed to leave with a weeks pay in my pocket the same day I gave notice. I did not steal and never thought to steal but I do think the employer realised that someone leaving might not have loyalty any more. Threatening Mrs Ortega was not the way to handle it. Kids are more precious than sterling silver. Te minute you are really not happy with an employee then fire them. However Mrs Krim had acted like they were like family and with that comes greater responsibility. The line was blurred.
Ms Ortega actually studied accountancy in DR. Maybe if the economy was better she might be working in this capacity.
Ms Ortega actually studied accountancy in DR. Maybe if the economy was better she might be working in this capacity.
I find this story hard to believe. And nannies don’t routinely envy the people they work for. Many nannies that I know are paid very well (much better than any store) and love the job, etc. They don’t envy the folks they work for. I don’t believe she killed the kids because she was offered more hours to clean; that makes no sense! Does that really make sense to you? She must not be fully awake or she’s just making up a story. She became overwhelmed with her life and lost it (maybe the kids were misbehaving; I don’t know). Mental illness is more common than you think.
I have friends that are extremely wealthy and by that, I mean billonaires. One in particular would be….. ….. ….. who I grew up with. Our families are very close knit. Do I take it out on him that he is wealthy or that I am jealous? Of course not, and no one else should either. Sick and tired of those that have next to nothing blaming others for their fortune. If you work hard, you can achieve financial success. Don’t begrudge those that are sitting high on the hog. It’s your own fault if you have little. The wealthy are not responsible for the poor, and to anyone that thinks otherwise, move away and live with like minded individuals. Hard to decipher what is written about, is truth, and what’s not. A lot of press about this crime isn’t consistent.
I agree with everything you’ve said. I am heartbroken over this.
I had a PT nanny 2 days/week when my daughter was little. She brought her child with her (which I loved) and I was paying her for sitting only. However, she took it upon herself to clean and do a lot of extra things. I always tipped her at holidays and did some special little things for her and her beautiful daughter who is still like a sister to my little girl. We did not ‘treat her like family’ but we had a nice relationship. I agree the Krims worked hard to get where they were and, even if there was friction, no way they could have known I am sure it could lead to such horror and tragedy. This woman, monster, was fortunate they tried…how terribly sad and unnecessary.
For cripes sake, what kind of kindergarten quality news reporters are you here?? She was a nanny, NOT a nurse. She HAS spoken to police. We don’t know how the nanny perceived the family or how she felt about them or what she blamed them for because she hasn’t answered that question (or even been asked, so far as can be gathered by the reports by the police). Actually, I take “kindergarten quality” back. My five year old could relay facts much more effectively than you people. You are an embarrassment to journalism.
I have two kids of the same age 6 and 2 and day by day I think about how can a mother go on in life after a tragedy like this. I couldn’t. I picture that moment when Marina saw her kids and she couldn’t do anything to save them. Poor family. Poor kids! Lucia maybe trying to run away or defend herself. Sorry but I would be crazy by now if i was Marina. Every time I’m in my bathroom and put my kids in the bathtub I picture that scene. I think I would have killed her or maybe let her die but then I think that if that happened it was going to be a painless dead for Ortega. I want the law to start the dead penalty in NYC with this woman or what about if they send her to life in prison and she finds some people who can torture her daily until she dies of pain? I know I may sound like I have a criminal mind but if someone does that or something similar to my kids I’ll take the justice with my own hands. I cannot imagine the pain of the Krim family. I cannot imagine Nessie asking for her little brother or big sister. I cannot imagine my life without my kids. RIP Leo and lulu.
This is insane, maybe she should have went to college and landed a better JOB if she was broke. Mr and Mrs Krim both worked very hard to get the life they lived and that is the outcime of college let alone Mr Krim is a Harvard Grad. This women asks for more hours and she is offered more money by cleaning and she accepts it but has the nerve to turn around and say she is a babysitter. Did she want free money handed to her? You have to work to make money,nothing is free in life. Those poor innocent children get murdered because she was broke and did not want to work for extra money? We really need to adjust the laws in the US and make them harsh because it is to easy for people to take the life of innocent children. No one has the right to take a life but in the US you go to jail for life so why not. Maybe if jail was not a nice ride people wold think twirce of taking the life of another. May the Krim children Rest IN Peace, and the family find the strength to live and get through each day coming.