It is being reported that the Manhattan nanny purported to have murdered Marina and Kevin Krim‘s two children, 6 year old Lulu and 2 year old Leo Krim will be arraigned tomorrow as authorities are now set to lay charges against Yoselyn Ortega.

Still incubated after her failed attempt at suicide Ms Ortega was able to sustain consciousness late this weekend when she asked about her immediate family and sought the appointing of a lawyer. Interestingly it was said that she declined to ask about the Krim family and has asked to have her immediate family present with her.

To date Ms Ortega has only been able to communicate by nodding her head and using her eyes as questions been asked of her. Nevertheless when she was asked about her involvement with respect to the death of the Krim family children she declined to respond leading many to speculate whether the murders were as a consequence of resentment towards the Krim family who are said to have enjoyed a privilege life whilst she in turn struggled merely to keep afloat (despite reports of being paid a generous salary) raising questions as to how one class of people in NYC live relative to privileged classes. Hardly the preferred discussion amongst the tea set…

That said some media outlets are reporting that Ms Ortega was planning on seeking psychological counseling (which some wonder if it was a realistic option given Ms Ortega’s financial woes) as her financial and personal woes began to spiral out of control. Of course this also raises the uncomfortable question whether the Krim family were aware of Ms Ortega’s situation and if so what obligations or responsibilities did they have as her employer to help rectify those issues, if any?

It is known that Ms Ortega began working for the Krims two years ago, and they quickly became “like one family.” Nevertheless this further raises more uncomfortable questions, if there was such a healthy family feeling why did the woman take out her grief on the Krim family children? Was it actual resentment and a feeling of slight, class resentment, something that was said to her or is this simply an instance of one woman who was unable to bear the strains of living and inexplicably lashed out at her employer’s children?

It is also understood Ms Ortega did not live with the Krim family and had no criminal past.

15 COMMENTS

Anon November 3, 2012 at 8:36 pm

If you’re looking for a motive, check out what Spire Law Group is doing. Maybe the fact that Mr. Krim was outing the entire Obama administration for 43 trillion in stolen and laundered money had somthing to do with it? Nobody tries to kill themselves by stabbing repeatedly in their own neck. it was a setup.
Gretl October 31, 2012 at 10:06 am

Scallywag, the correct word here is “intubated” not “incubated. “Joselyn Ortega remains intubated.”
I see that you attempt to introduce different ideas on how this tragedy could have occurred. Good writing in that regard. You have a tendency for run-on sentences.
Ella October 31, 2012 at 12:17 am

To be fair, I didn’t get the impression that the writer is blaming the parents or even suggesting that they contributed to Ortega’s mindset. I think he’s just wondering out loud what drove this woman to do something so violent and so evil, and its legitimate to consider class as a factor. It’s not an excuse (there isn’t one) but it may be a factor. I do agree, however, that the suggestion that the Krim’s might have been aware of Ortega’s financial struggles, and possibly should have rectified them, is unreasonable.

Also, being a journalist is partly about the craft of writing, so correct spelling is mandatory. Don’t make excuses.
sunbeamcatcher October 31, 2012 at 12:04 am

Thank you scallywag for great reporting – and especially for asking those questions many don’t want to ask
Carolyn Craft October 30, 2012 at 11:43 pm

This is not journalism. This is story telling. So ridiculous. Pat, you couldn’t be more right.
scallywag October 30, 2012 at 11:17 pm

No one is suggesting that one ought not take responsibility for their actions. One should always take responsibility for their actions, that said we might all come to learn more about this tragedy by asking ourselves questions, even difficult ones. And yes the Krim family are obvious victims, but so is Mr Ortega, a victim at her own hands and perhaps the socio economic dynamics at play in our society which led to her unfortunately choosing to act out the way she did. Then again there might be more at stake here than we all know and we will have to wait patiently until more evidence comes to light.
birdieny October 30, 2012 at 11:08 pm

This article is pathetic. How dare you turn this tragedy into class warfare. We are all responsible for our own lives and choices. If Ms. Ortega didn’t like her lot in life, she is responsible for changing it and no one else. The suggestion that the Krim family should have somehow been doing more for her is really outrageous. Ms. Ortega is not the victim here. The Krims are.
birdieny October 30, 2012 at 11:08 pm

This article is pathetic. How dare you turn this tragedy into class warfare. We are all responsible for our own lives and choices. If Ms. Ortega didn’t like her lot in life, she is responsible for changing it and no one else. The suggestion that the Krim family should have somehow been doing more for her is really outrageous. Ms. Ortega is not the victim here. The Krims are.
scallywag October 30, 2012 at 10:22 pm

Pat. Here are my thoughts. The idea of journalism isn’t to echo sympathy or prescribed points of views which might gather me points and a pat on the back from the readers, a publicist, the establishment, the advertisers or even the subject being written about.

Being a journalist, writer, or whatever you want to call it isn’t about whether one spells correctly either (although it does help obviously) but rather the job of any writer should always be to present a series of ideas that may lead to contemplation, even debate and even readers such as yourself denouncing me.

As for the Krim family my heart goes out to them, I think what they have endured is beyond to be honest my ability to wrap my mind around. To come home and find two of your children murdered? It’s staggering and just so painful, and literally mind boggling. Personally I would know how to begin to cope with such a tragedy. I think about this family’s pain constantly.

That said as a writer I am indebted to explore ideas, situations and to hopefully come to a closer realization as to the type of society we live in. The day a writer can not pose such questions is the day our society begins to die a kind of death.
PAT October 30, 2012 at 8:20 pm

You call yourself a journalist? Your technical writing is extremely poor -and your thought process even more deplorable. I clicked on your link hoping to get some news about the nanny’s arraignment -because I (and the rest of the world) am waiting for this woman to answer for her senseless acts of evil. How dare you spread this poison -your bottom-of-the-barrel thoughts on her motive -as if it matters. Even worse, writing the words “obligation” or “responsibility” beside the Krim family…this is the worst kind of media right here. There are times to see both sides of a story my friend, and this isn’t one of them. I’m sure I speak for many people when I say that I don’t care -at all -about her personal struggles. I care about those poor children and their now shattered parents.
Scott Smart October 30, 2012 at 7:44 pm

Joeblow, take your craziness elsewhere! You and your 500 other anonYMOUS names with your twisted sense of reality ARE COMICAL AT BEST. Enough already, go find a useful hobby, or perhaps get an EDUCATION!
joeblow October 30, 2012 at 6:56 pm

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/major-banks-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-spire-law-group-llps-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-to-the-united-states-treasury-2012-10-25
joe blow October 30, 2012 at 6:55 pm

You people in the media will fry for protecting child killers. They pulled my link on marketwatch.com 43 trillion lawsuit connected to this story
joeblow October 30, 2012 at 6:53 pm

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/major-banks-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-spire-law-group-llps-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-to-the-united-states-treasury-2012-10-25 Kevin Krim as digital editor at CNBC posted this story.
Joeblow October 30, 2012 at 6:50 pm

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/major-banks-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-spire-law-group-llps-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-to-the-united-states-treasury-2012-10-25 Kevin Krim is the digital VPS at CNBC. CNBC posted this story the day before his children were murdered. CNBC has since pulled the story down. Here it is on Market Watch.com