Edwin Mieses is a thug. Didn’t have license to drive bike.

 

Edwin Mieses is a thug. Didnt have license to drive bike.

Edwin Mieses

Bikers claim Alexian Lien drove erratically and bumped biker first.

Undercover cop who witnessed Alexian Lien beating suspended.

There were 5 undercover cops present at Alexian Lien’s beating. Did shit.

Gloria Allred insists Edwin Mieses is the real innocent victim.

Robert Sims who opened Alexian Lien’s SUV door in custody.

Undercover cop present at Alexian Lien beating. Did not call 911.

Eyewitness says bikers went after Alexian Lien’s wife Rosalyn Ng.

Bike gang boss: “Alexian Lien should have stopped.’

Edwin Mieses hires Gloria Allred to sue Alexian Lien.

Alexian Lien attacker Reginald Chance expected to surrender today.

Edwin Mieses biker rally a bust. Cops charge more bikers…

Alexian Lien wife, Rosalyn Ng: ‘Leave my husband alone now!’

Did Alexian Lien go too far? Biker was trying to help him…

Why Alexian Lien’s attacker Allen Edwards wont be charged.

Alexian Lien wont be charged. Internet happy he paralyzed victim Jeremiah Mieses.

Alexian Lien victim Jeremiah Mieses in coma. Will never walk again.

Alexian Lien assailant Christopher Cruz arrested. More arrests may follow.

Alexian Lien. Pictures of NY Range Rover Driver beaten up emerge.

New York Range Rover driver identified as Alexian Lien. Fought for his life.

New York Range Rover driver beaten up by motorcycle pack.

In the face of the recent event which saw biker Edwin Mieses paralyzed after sustaining horrific injuries at the hands of Alexian Lien a moral conundrum has erupted.

Many on the web have gone on to express that Jeremiah Edwin Mieses (full name) simply got what he deserved and that if he chose to be part of a group that acted aggressively one should not be surprised that he got his fingers burned. In Edwin Mieses case he got more than his fingers burned and is now permanently paralyzed.

That said what may augment the argument if whether Jeremiah Mieses (as he is also known by his rapper name Jay Meezee) simply got what he deserved was this disturbing revelation which points to the idea that Mr Mieses wasn’t an angel either and that he had a consistent history of mischief.

Tells the bostonglobe:

Though Mieses is a Massachusetts resident, he has never had a valid Massachusetts driver’s license for a passenger vehicle and has never applied for a motorcycle license, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said.

Registry records show that Mieses applied for a learner’s permit in 1999 and 2000, but that he never obtained a full license because he failed to pay fines imposed after he was ticketed for speeding in Lawrence in 1999. His last contact with the Registry was in 2001, when he obtained an identification card, registry records show.

Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.

In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show.

Yet the question remains, did Mr Mieses deserve what has happened to him? By being part of a gang that was acting aggressively on the road was this his comeuppance for what many regard as illegitimate behavior?

Many have opined that Alexian Lien had no alternative but to plow through the bikers, others have even argued that confronted with similar animosity they would have also resorted to violence to defend themselves. Which raises the question was Mr Lien simply defending himself and are Mr Mieses’ injuries just payback karma for a legacy of consistently being on the wrong side of the law or is it just a situation of being in the wrong place at the wrong time as his family have insisted?

It might be true Mr Mieses was simply just tending to one of his own who had fallen before being innocently plowed over…but what moral obligation do we as a society owe him, to guarantee that certain acts of violence are not engendered and what is Mr Lien’s own personal culpability here? Expect a lawsuit in the near future…

And via mediabistro:

The Facebook page calling for justice for Mieses had more than 19,000 likes as of Wednesday afternoon, while the one set up for Lien had a fraction of that at just under 3,500 Facebook likes.

“Justice For Jay Meezee. The media is trying to paint the man driving the Range Rover as the victim. Yet, Jay Meezee is in a coma and paralyzed unable to walk again along with a list of severe injuries sustained,” noted the “About” section of the fan page for Mieses.

And then there was these two comment below of the many thousands of comments on the web that particularly made me wonder:

It’s unfortunate, but it’s clearly the mob mentality that’s to blame here. Lien had a fight or flight response and chose flight, unfortunately, this young man decided to put himself between a vehicle and the “flight”. This biker gang, and yes I’m going to say gang, has a reputation for causing havoc and disrupting traffic when they do these runs. He was caught up with the wrong crowd and things like this are going to happen when you involve yourself with punks such as these. I hope he recovers and I hope the other bikers who antagonized the man realize they’re just as responsible for their “friend’s” condition.

 

The gang as a whole were a bunch of douchebags on the road. Mieses was part of that gang and felt protected by the sheer numbers with him. 

People say that when you’re in a mob, you do things you normally wouldn’t do. I disagree. When people are in a mob, their real personality comes through because they believe they will not get caught by authorities amongst the mob.
In a riot, people break windows thinking the crime is minor enough that police won’t bother to find them. They stop short of killing others because that magnitude of crime will have authorities looking for them. But if a person knew there was no accountability for theft, murder, rape…etc, how many of us could truly say they would still act as the person they pretend to be?

America still the wild west that it has always been…

  • Lewis Goudy

    RAHOWA, now or never.

  • sdfqef

    I didn’t see that coming… /sarcasm

  • joe

    I still think Mieses is not at fault. I saw the video. Not once did Mieses approach Lien’s car, he didn’t attack Lien, in fact, he never did anything to Lien. The guy who provoked Lien was Christopher Cruz, not Mieses. Lien ran over a guy who never did anything to him. Now I understand Lien was fearful for his family, and he drove over a biker in fear, not intentional. However, in his action to save his child, he paralyzed someone who never did anything to him, and at the same time has created hardship for 2 children of the injured biker. The very least he should do is be responsible for Mieses medical bills, along with Christopher Cruz, who is also at fault for provoking the incident. The biker gang stuff—I don’t buy it. Most of these guys don’t even know each other. Riders from all over the area congregate once a year for parade. it’s not a gang. A lot of bikers ride in groups for safety. And yes it’s true many bikers ride crazy, but many car drivers drive crazy also. I drive on turnpike everyday, and I see many cars and suvs cutting me off all the time, do I run them over? nope. If I reacted like Lien I would have run over scores of people by now. Road rage is a big problem and the solution is not violence. As far as the argument that he was only protection his child, in the video I don’t see bikers attacking the suv. I see most of the bikers just watching with a “whats going on?” look. A few bikers congregate near the suv, but that’s because there was an accident. Another factor: nobody knew he had a baby on board. the suv was tinted passenger windows to the whole back. all you can see is lien and his wife. and in any accident people always come out and see what happened, its normal.

  • davidvoth

    Mieses has never had a license to drive ANYTHING on any public road, anywhere. He’s listed on the NHTSA’s registry of chronic bad drivers. He’s totally at fault because he shouldn’t have even been on the road, much less participating in an organized road bullying stunt. Every rider involved in that act is guilty, including Mieses no matter how much of a choir boy his apologists can paint him as being.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! I hope Mieses recovers enough to spend the rest of his life teaching kids about the importance of safe driving.

  • DaddyPhatsax

    Not necessary for him to be responsible for Mieses medical bills. That will all be covered by Mieses’s driver’s insurance.

  • Boston02116

    Mieses got what he deserved. If he wasn’t riding illegally with no license, it wouldn’t have happened. Lien feared for his and his family’s lives. That’s all there is to it.

  • Linda Winkler

    Sarcasm right? No license means he wasn’t registered or insured, I’d bet. Someone else will be footing the bills.

  • B_Rodregas

    That’s kind of like saying that if you plow into the back of someone stopped at a stop light in traffic and kill them you should be held responsible…. even if you were also stopped at the light and the reason you slammed the person in front of you is bacause a semi-truck failed to stop and slammed into you and plowed you into them…. the biker group caused the intitial minor accident, the bikers esceleated the initial incident to the point the Lien feared for the lives of himself and his family, and the bikers hold FULL responsibility for any and all injuries in the encounter.
    Any normal person, in their right minds, finding themselves in the situation Mr. Lien did would react just as he did.
    On the other hand, had only one or two bikers stopped at the scene of the minor traffic accident, and Mr. Lein had NOT been swarmed by a mob of angry bikers…. I’m sure things would have been very different… The bikers had no right to swarm this mans vehicle simply for being involved in a traffic accident…. especially on where he was CLEARLY not at fault.

  • zeus

    Let’s see who that Edwin Mieses is :

    Edwin Mieses, 32, never got a driver’s license in the Bay State, the
    Registry
    of Motor Vehicles said, but he was frequently nabbed behind the wheel,
    and even sentenced to jail for driving without a license, court records
    show. Mieses has a pending case out of Lawrence District Court for
    driving suspended, subsequent offense, said Carrie Kimball Monihan,
    spokeswoman for the Essex County District Attorney’s Office. Mieses also
    has 15 guilty findings for criminal offenses including distribution of
    cocaine, possession of a firearm without a permit, knowingly receiving
    stolen property, resisting arrest and several motor vehicle violations,
    court records show.
    Mieses was sentenced to jail in 2004 for distribution of cocaine, in 2001 for
    operating
    without a license, in 2000 for possession of a firearm, and in 1999 for
    possession of marijuana, receiving stolen property, destruction of
    property and attaching plates, according tocourt records.
    With all
    the crimes he has committed, Edwin Mieses is described as ” a family
    man”, ” a devoted father”…… It takes a sickening animal to come up
    with an idea to help a criminal accuse the true victim. What kind of
    animal will be sickening enough to help a criminal victimize the victim
    further??? How can a sickening female dog be a celebrity lawyer???

    It was disgusting to learn that the father of Edwin Mieses is a pastor. He
    has produced an offspring that repeatedly violated the law. Yet he is sickening
    enough to claim that he bears no anger towards the SUV driver while planning to
    sue the SUV driver!!!! He should be very angry at himself. He has allowed his
    son to challenge the law again and again!!!! The SUV crushed Edwin Mieses.
    However, it was the father of Edwin Mieses who ruined his life, Had that pastor
    told his son that it was wrong to drive without a license???? Had that pastor
    taught his son that he should not have possessed cocaine???? Had that pastor
    taught his son that it’s wrong to victimize a victim???

    Or had that pastor taught him otherwise??? Is that why Edwin Mieses had to
    bear such a thick book of criminal records?? The only thing I feel sorry for
    Edwin Mieses is that he does not have a good father to guide him well. May God
    get him a better father in his next life!!!! Amen!!!

  • Brant Creamer

    So Mr. Lien some how magically made Mieses appear out of thin air in front of his car? I saw the video and it is clear Mieses was part of the original rolling roadblock that led up to the accident. Then decided it was a good idea to stand in front of the SUV i don’t care if he was “Trying to calm the situation down” or not, by blocking the SUV’s exit path he was part of the threat to Lien and thus got what was coming to him.

  • iloveevolved

    Put yourself in a situation where your life, your wife and child are in grave danger and I will promise you that you will do ANYTHING to protect. I don’t care if you are a man, woman, lion or bear, when that instinct kicks in you will fight or run away for safety. It’s very unfortunate that Mieses is one of the casualties of the situation, but any man who blames Lien for Mieses’ demise is NOT a real man.

  • guest3

    I feel sorry for Mieses. So many haters. Not having a drivers license does not make him in a poor driver or motorcyclist. If the US Criminal Justice system would not be so insanely cuckoo nuts in arresting and sentencing people for petty things then we would be a much better society. In Texas A man gets 70 years for stealing a tuna sandwich. Wholefoods Texas. My sympathy for Mieses and his family. USA is worlds #1 jail prison probation recidivism.

  • Archibald Meatpants

    Too bad Edwin Mieses didn’t die because he’s a piece of shit