Bikers claim Alexian Lien drove erratically and bumped biker first.

1. Car door is not locked . they say the helmet cam batteries died but there are more helmet cams and ipad use to record videos no more footage that’s what the lawyer Andrew Vecere said. flat tires will not go that fast the axel wil rub against the road with loud noise. the car mirror is missing not because of what every happen before this .no proof mirror missing they are hiding something they don’t want the suv driver to be seen. alexian LIEn never go tell his story live on tv or internet?
   the video is put on youtube not to the police?
   police was in this too one of the cop smashed window with fist?
   If they wanna to do tricks the bikers will let the car go for space ?
   DON’T MAKE SENSE. they are slowing or stopping the suv for what reason. what’s with the missing mirror on suv something they are hiding?
   never see alexian on tv live to tell his side of the story?

2. still go fast?

3. Alexian Lien and his frightened wife. When you run over a convicted criminal with a 350 hp / 4000 lbs SUV — what sound does it make?

4. Lisa’s schitbag baby-daddy must run with these bikers.

5. Yes, I do, but I don’t have to. I ride a bike every day and slowing down that fast is easy to do with your brakes, downshifting, or simply letting off the accelerator. It’s very different than in a car, and stopping your bike that fast right after pulling into someone else’s lane is not only illegal, it is a good way to die.

   Not only do I ride a bike every day (10-15k miles a year), I’ve interestingly been in Lien’s position too. I had a biker who alleged I cut him off, and despite me apologizing he chose violence. Unfortunately I was in a state that required handguns be locked in your glovebox, so I wasn’t able to properly defend myself against the guy who ultimately started climbing in my window and was punching me in the face. My only choice was to try to get away in the car, and that resulted in his legs and bike being crushed by my wheels. I did feel bad that he was horribly injured, but I certainly don’t regret my actions. You would have to be a complete imbecile to not see what was going in either case, but having been there I can also tell you from experience that it’s pretty scary to get attacked by thugs like these and they were purposefully bullying him even before the video cut on and he was trying to save his family. They were in every lane and swarming his car when the video mysteriously cuts on preventing us from seeing what really started this – this is not how respectful bikers that I’ve ever seen behave.

6. Watch the whole of the video. You can see the bikes swarm around Lien. Cruz then changes lane to get in front of the SUV and brakes to bring him to a halt.

   Full video ;

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVK77U8bgKc

   You can then see the back drivers wheel is on rims after they bikers mobbed it. THEY SLASHED THE TYRE. It was fine before the stop and flat after. Figure it out.

7. So are you just copying and pasting this comment everywhere Lisa? No-one is buying it.

8. You tell her M.

9. I’m well experienced with bikes. Pay attention to the way the biker is studying the SUV by looking behind him just before the ‘nudge’.

   I know what a biker braking and watching his back wheel judging the distance looks like. The bikers swarmed around and engulfed the vehicle. Where the hell was Lien supposed to go?

   Lien initially called the police prior to the incident to say the bikers were causing a problem. I should think Cruz forced him to a stop because he spotted him on the phone to the law.

   You should take a look at the rap sheets of the bikers involved here. You also bear in mind they’ve claimed a biker came off at the start (they didn’t) that Mieses was tending to a downed biker (he wasn’t) and no-one attacked the vehicle (they did, it had slashed tires). So a bunch of lying criminals claim something that video and physical evidence contradict.

10. Did you even watch the video, Lisa?

    Bike gang member Cruz cut right in front of the SUV, less than a yard away, then immediately slowed down. His intent was obvious, to force Lien’s SUV to bump him, faking an “accident” so that he and his fellow bikers (and cops) would have something “valid” to get enraged about and force the stop in the middle of the 55 MPH highway and start their gangbanging.

    If you want to be legalistic about it, proper lane changing distance in NYS is 2+ car lengths. Cruz was nowhere near that distance.

    All of this is why he was charged with false imprisonment.

11. HAHAHAHAHA!!! You are illegally commenting with your legal blindness!!! :)))) Now, don’t reply and fight back! Let me have my way! Avoid conflict!!!! Creep back to your room and survive! :))))Stop fantasizing and surmising, idiot! :)))))

12. :)) Lien caused the accident?? :)) Stop taking drugs and see
    clearly!!!!! One bike intentionally brake checked him. Those thugs were
    challenging the law, stupid! That parade should not have taken place on
    that day, stupid!! It’s funny to see you start with that statement ”
    LET’S FOCUS ON THE DAY OF THE INCIDENT”!! :))) You ?? Focus?? :)))) I
    don’t think you are able to do so. Guess that paralyzed Edwin must have
    bought cocaine from you before and you have lost one of your major
    patrons. Is that why you come up with such nonsense? :))) Hey!! Don’t
    fight back!!! Let me have my way!!!!! Avoid conflict!!! Now creep back
    to your room and survive. :)))))

13. Seriously, do you have a driver’s license? Can you learn how to drive and stop SURMISING??? :)))) Now, avoid conflicts! Don’t reply! Creep back to your room and survive! :)))))

14. :)) Lien caused the accident??? Stop taking drugs and see
    clearly!!!!! One bike intentionally brake checked him. Those thugs were
    challenging the law, stupid! That parade should not have taken place on
    that day, stupid!! :)) It’s funny to see you start with that statement ”
    LET’S FOCUS ON THE DAY OF THE INCIDENT”!! :))) You ?? Focus?? :)))) I
    don’t think you are able to do so. Guess that paralyzed Edwin must have
    bought cocaine from you before and you have lost one of your major
    patrons. Is that why you come up with such nonsense? :))) Hey!! Don’t
    fight back!!! Let me have my way!!!!! Avoid conflict!!! Now creep back
    to your room and survive. :)))))

15. :)) Lien caused the accident??? :)) Stop taking drugs and see clearly!!!!! One bike intentionally brake checked him. Those thugs were challenging the law, stupid! That parade should not have taken place on that day, stupid!! :)) It’s funny to see you start with that statement ” LET’S FOCUS ON THE DAY OF THE INCIDENT”!! :))) You ?? Focus?? :)))) I don’t think you are able to do so. Guess that paralyzed Edwin must have bought cocaine from you before and you have lost one of your major patrons. Is that why you come up with such nonsense? :))) Hey!! Don’t fight back!!! Let me have my way!!!!! Avoid conflict!!! Now creep back to your room and survive. :)))))

16. :))) Many, if not all, of those bikers don’t have plates and Edwin Mieses doesn’t even have a driver’s license. :)))) Lien showing aggression??? :)))) Unlike you and your species, Lien has a great career and a loving family. Why would he risk such a valuable life just for some trash like your species? Do you think he will be as brainless as you and your species WHICH can do nothing besides looking for trouble?? :)))) Conflict avoidance?? :)))) That parade was illegal, stupid!!!! So when your species intended to rape you , you would have let them have their way, right? :)))) Yeah! That’s how you survive, I guess!! :)))) Idiot! :))))))

17. Saying it over and over again wont make it true. Lien was traveling ahead of the group and they came up behind and surrounded him. You cant stay 2-3 lengths behind when you’re already in front.

18. It’s not surmised when the video shows him splitting the lane (which is illegal), passing the SUV in its own lane (again, illegal), getting in front of the SUV with not even a car’s length, and braking (brake lights come on).

19. LOOK AGAIN, look at the video, screen open with your EYES OPEN.

    At the 10 second mark, you can see his brake light light up from braking!

    GUILTY AS CHARGED. I’m glad that lying scumbag is getting the books thrown at him!

20. Let’s focus on the day of the incident: Lien caused the accident and triggered what followed! He neglected to drive 2-3 car lengths behind the bikes, as is best practice in defensive driving. He knew he was driving the bigger vehicle and showed aggression by driving dangerously too close to some of the bikers. If I were to guess, I believe prior to his going on the road, Lien was already pissed off by someone or something. If it were I in his position, I would have slowed down and pulled over to allow the parade of bikes to go by and then continue on my way. It’s called survival, defensive driving, and conflict avoidance.

21. Look at the video again. Do you see any brake light turned on the bike when Cruz supposedly “brake-checked”?

22. All surmise

23. Lien caused the accident and triggered what followed! He neglected to drive 2-3 car lengths behind the bikes, as is best practice in defensive driving. He knew he was driving the bigger vehicle and showed aggression by driving dangerously too close to some of the bikers. If I were to guess, I believe prior to his going on the road, Lien was already pissed off by someone or something. If it were I in his position, I would have slowed down and pulled over to allow the parade of bikes to go by and then continue on my way. It’s called survival, defensive driving, and conflict avoidance.

24. you only saw a portion of what happened. Lien caused the accident and triggered what followed! He neglected to drive 2-3 car lengths behind the bikes, as is best practice in defensive driving. He knew he was driving the bigger vehicle and showed aggression by driving dangerously too close to some of the bikers. If I were to guess, I believe prior to his going on the road, Lien was already pissed off by someone or something. If it were I in his position, I would have slowed down and pulled over to allow the parade of bikes to go by and then continue on my way. It’s called survival, defensive driving, and conflict avoidance.

25. Let’s see who that Edwin Mieses is :

    Edwin Mieses, 32, never got a driver’s license in the Bay State, the
    Registry
    of Motor Vehicles said, but he was frequently nabbed behind the wheel,
    and even sentenced to jail for driving without a license, court records
    show. Mieses has a pending case out of Lawrence District Court for
    driving suspended, subsequent offense, said Carrie Kimball Monihan,
    spokeswoman for the Essex County District Attorney’s Office. Mieses also
    has 15 guilty findings for criminal offenses including distribution of
    cocaine, possession of a firearm without a permit, knowingly receiving
    stolen property, resisting arrest and several motor vehicle violations,
    court records show.
    Mieses was sentenced to jail in 2004 for distribution of cocaine, in 2001 for
    operating
    without a license, in 2000 for possession of a firearm, and in 1999 for
    possession of marijuana, receiving stolen property, destruction of
    property and attaching plates, according to court records.
    With all
    the crimes he has committed, Edwin Mieses is described as ” a family
    man”, ” a devoted father”…… It takes a sickening animal to come up
    with an idea to help a criminal accuse the true victim. What kind of
    animal will be sickening enough to help a criminal victimize the victim
    further??? How can a sickening female dog be a celebrity lawyer???

    It was disgusting to learn that the father of Edwin Mieses is a pastor. He
    has produced an offspring that repeatedly violated the law. Yet he is sickening
    enough to claim that he bears no anger towards the SUV driver while planning to
    sue the SUV driver!!!! He should be very angry at himself. He has allowed his
    son to challenge the law again and again!!!! The SUV crushed Edwin Mieses.
    However, it was the father of Edwin Mieses who ruined his life, Had that pastor
    told his son that it was wrong to drive without a license???? Had that pastor
    taught his son that he should not have possessed cocaine???? Had that pastor
    taught his son that it’s wrong to victimize a victim???

    Or had that pastor taught him otherwise??? Is that why Edwin Mieses had to
    bear such a thick book of criminal records?? The only thing I feel sorry for
    Edwin Mieses is that he does not have a good father to guide him well. May God
    get him a better father in his next life!!!! Amen!!!

26. The fact that Lien actually stopped after being brake-checked by Cruz tells me he was not being aggressive. Obviously something happened before the video started, but if Lien was being aggressive and trying to run over bikers, he would’ve just bounced over Cruz in the first place. Cruz needs to be sued into Oblivion for injuries to Mieses, Lien, and any bikes or legs caught in the accident. The two charged bikers and the paralyzed biker are all career criminals and do not represent the rest of us who spend time on bikes.

27. Cruz has been charged with reckless driving on top of the other charges. He purposely slammed on his brakes causing the accident. This in every state is also considered Insurance Fraud for deliberately causing a auto accident. As for Misele, he should too should be charged with false Imprisonment for parking his bike in front of the SUV and preventing it from fleeing for safety.

28. Perhaps the SUV drove erratically and bumped Cruz because Cruz split his lane, ILLEGALLY, at high speeds? When Cruz splits his lane, he honks his horn. Then Cruz looks at Lien and accelerates to cut in front of the driver and brake check while watching and Lien honking when he brake checks him.

29. Thanks for posting that link, Aaron. It does appear to dispute the Mieses’ family argument that he was was innocently trying to help an injured rider.

30. The bikers were doing the OPPOSITE of “defensive driving.” They were incredibly aggressive. If the biker was indeed bumped by the SUV, why would he then put himself in harm’s way by maneuvering *in front* of the SUV and hitting the brakes? Makes no sense whatsoever.

    This will not stand in court. The best they can do with their opinions is put on a suit and testify in Mieses’s civil trial against Lien, where they’ll have their chance to prove to the world what fine, upstanding citizens they all are.

31. Yeaaah, no. Thanks to the video, EVERYONE knows that’s not what happeed.

    Besides the video itself, I think this page did a nice frame by frame shot of the bike pulling into Lien’s lane and breaking in front of the SUV: http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/217012.php

32. WATCH THE VIDEO. You can see the car is driving properly, the biker was looking back into the SUV and slowly braked in an attempt to bring it to a halt. Probably saw the man was on the phone (calling the cops about the bikers at the time) and wanted to scare him.

    The bikers are lying sods. You can see in the video some of them are trying the handles of teh SUV which was why he drove off.

33. No way Jose.

34. All the upstanding congenial bikers have criminal records or outstanding warrants spanning from traffic violations, to cocaine bartering, to entrepreneurship with stolen property, to sexual assault, carrying weapons without permit, to fathering children with crack hussies. Apparently the SUV Dad wasn’t driving appropriately, i.e., not crossing back and forth between lanes, not poppin’ chill wheelies yo, not hiding his license plates, not not having any driver’s license. Worst of all, SUV Dad had no personal debt and was not living on welfare. The nerve of this guy to be driving with his family on a Sunday morning when he should be committing vehicular mayhem like the other real g-nigras.

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