Marina and Kevin Krim reveal how their surviving daughter Nessie saves them.
Oh really! Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega begs judge to bar media!
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega pleads not guilty to murder. Declines to speak…
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega grand indicted to serve the rest of her life in jail.
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega was stressed out about money. Did the Krim family hold out…?
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega now believed to have been motivated by money, but wont confess…
Marina Krim’s nanny’s Facebook page now insists that Marina Krim killed her children.
Marina Krim too remain tight lipped. Refuses to address nanny’s allegations…
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega insists she was the one abused and mistreated.
Cops say Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega refuses to admit killings….
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega now formally charged with first degree murder.
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega was warned she’d be fired. Refused to clean…
Marina Krim’s nurse Yoselyn Ortega to be arraigned from hospital bed. Still wont speak…
As more information begins to come to light as pertaining to the murders of Marina and Kevin Krim’s two children, Lulu and Leo Krim authorities are now beginning to piece a strand that includes former nanny Yoselyn Ortega capitulating as a result of money worries
Prior to the murders it was thought that Ms Ortega had wanted to move her 17 year old son, Jesus from the Dominican Republic to NY and give him a better life by putting him through private school. The only catch being her $18 an hour job was hardly going to pave the way.
This led to the Krim family then offering Ms Ortiz an extra 5 hours a week in cleaning duties where she stood to make an extra $90 a week (at $18 an hour, her prescribed hourly rate) and another $4500 a year, bringing Ms Ortega’s annual pay roughly to $37 000. Not exactly the payoff or even the type of work that Ms Ortiz may have been looking for but perhaps it might have been a good start to help her son whilst she looked for other opportunities.
Unfortunately things suddenly fell apart when the lessor of a sublet she had secured decided after 3 months to seek the return of their apartment putting Ms Ortega at a financial disadvantage especially after having spent a considerable degree of money on fixtures. Her financial difficulties were also said to be exacerbated after a side business of selling jewelry to neighbors in the building where she lived reneging on their promises to pay up thus forcing the nanny to go into debt to cover their outstanding liabilities.
This combined with having to once again live with relatives and also now bring along her son exacerbated her financial woes and it is believed her frustration of having to cater to the upwardly mobile Krim family only aggravated her sense of despair given that her version of the American dream was no where coming closer, having now spent ten years in the United States, even having worked as a cleaner at a factory and holding an accounting degree from her native Dominic Republic.
As to what actually made Ms Ortega snap investigators without a confession are still at a wits end with some wondering that Ms Ortega is holding out information that may further help authorities connect the dots.
Offered a law enforcement source to dnainfo: “There was definitely an issue with treatment by her employees, and money issues. But there must be some other craziness that has not come out.”
To date Ms Ortega has refused to acknowledge her complicity in the deaths of Leo and Lulu Krim insisting instead that ‘Ask Marina, Marina knows…’
Nevertheless it is understood that Ms Ortega and Marina Krim had a falling out the day before the murders regarding the treatment of Leo and Lulu Krim (Ms Ortega complained that they were being spoilt) which led to the two arguing something which probably didn’t sit too well with Ms Ortega who had been recently warned she stood to lose her job if her attitude didn’t improve.
Despite the above incriminating circumstances some have gone on to wonder if Ms Ortega is actually innocent of the murders and an unnamed band of individuals have now gone and created a Facebook page ‘Support Innocence of Nanny Yoselyn Ortega,’ beseeching the nanny’s innocence and postulating that in fact Marina Krim may have orchestrated the murders and was now pinning the murders on her. An absurd theory many have wondered which has seen the Facebook page widely condemned, nevertheless it continues to exist.
With respect to the idea that Ms Ortega did not slit her own throat which may have corroborated the idea that Ms Ortega was at the wrong place at the wrong time or being set up comes information via the UK’s dailymail that the building superintendent’s ten year old son having witnessed Ms Ortega slit her own throat after he followed his father into the Krim family apartment pursuant to shouts and screams coming from the bathroom which led to grave concerns from building inhabitants. As an aside it is now also understood that the Krim family will not be returning to their former West 75th residence as they attempt to now get on with their lives.
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega now hires lawyer. Still not talking to cops.
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega thought to have resented her employers…
Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega refuses to cooperate with authorities.
Did Marina Krim’s nanny Yoselyn Ortega have a motive?
Why did a Manhattan nanny stab Marina Krim’s two children to death?
This woman did not wake up one day and killed these children. There were signs leading up to this tragedy. The news report that there was a big argument between Marina and the nanny the day before. The only victims are the children. Even when they were lying in the bath tub dying, their mother chose to stop the bleeding of the nanny accused of killing them. The nanny lives, the children die. Regardless of what people think about the nanny, the criminal justice system will deem her insane and will sentence her to either life in prison or in a mental institution. Either way, she is still alive and never has to worry about where she is going to live or how much money she makes. Eventually money makers will produce a movie or sell books or have a television show capitalizing on this tragedy and the reactions will be exactly the same as they are now – self righteous indignation.
I just created a spanish page in support of the Krim Family.
En apoyo a la familia Krim (In support of the Krim family)
I’m not the one who needs to “calm down.” I didn’t start a thread about “creepy” mother/children outfits; non-working mothers who hire nannies; a forensic accountancy of the Krims net-worth; and to top it off, an underlying blame — which will be denied — that the mother was in some manner, shape or form, responsible for her children’s death. Calm people don’t write ****** stuff like that, but people who need to get their rage out do. Have you any idea how offensive what you wrote is? The parents weren’t responsible in any way for their children’s death. Period.
I’m in your camp. You’re preaching to the converted. I was answering rory who wrote Ortega was underpaid. I do not think so. And I was not referring to Marina Krim when I questioned whether “she” worked full time. I meant Ortega. Was she employed on an eight-hour-five-day-a-week basis. Marina, we know, taught an art class once a week for a couple of hours. So, in fact, she wasn’t really working at all and spent her time with her children. My point is, Ortega was paid perfectly fairly for what she was doing, her experience, and the time she spent with the kids.
I am guessing she knew the people who sublet the apt so maybe they were giving her a deal…maybe she couldn’t afford an apt like that normally and also NYC is pretty congested so not always something available…so maybe she didn’t lose money in rent but just couldn’t live there anymore.
I believe that they did tell her she might be let go….but remember she was starting to unravel in recent months, neighbors said she lost weight and was always tired and was seeing psychiatrist….it’s weird first people say “why didn’t the Krims notice something was wrong with her?” then when reports come out that they did (as evidenced by the fact they noticed she wasn’t performing her job functions well anymore and brought this to her attention) then people say the Krims were mean for wanting to let her go. The Krims did the nice thing…they gave her a warning. I mean why should they pay someone who is not doing their job..esp with a impt job like taking care of the children. Actually they should’ve just fired her sooner or not even hired this crazy bitch at all.
Marina Krim did not work fulltime so I don’t think Yoselyn was always alone with 3 kids around the clock. And if she were so underpaid she should’ve quit and gotten another job, not kill the children. I’m sick of people pointing out she was underpaid…WHO CARES…that’s no reason to KILL innocent children. Blaming the Krims is like blaming the “friend” who kicked her out of the Bronx apt, blaming the lady who stole her cosmetics without paying, blaming her family for not giving her more money…it’s ridiculous. Until someone tells me that Marina Krim threatened Yoselyn’s life or something of the equivalent then there is NO excuse for her actions.
Things didn’t turn out the way Yoselyn wanted, she wanted to put her son in private school in NYC and have her own nice apt…it’s not the Krims fault Yoselyn had too high expectations. Why would Yoselyn even work for them in the first place if they weren’t paying her enough.
@eileen – you’ve never heard of the hanna andersson catalog and mother/daughter outfits, or matching outfits for a family for vacation and holiday photos? Not unusual at all, and certainly not “creepy.”
Hey. You seriously need to calm down.
Some obsessed dumb-ass probably writes this blog.
I had three kids in 17 months and whilst they wouldn’t have matching clothes per say I would dress them in the same colours. The reason was in case someone got lost I would know where to start at least with the colours and then flesh out the design of the clothes.
I don’t quite understand this sublet situation. Perhaps someone in NYC can explain how she could lose money.
If the information here is correct, and it would need to be verified, she was making almost three times the federal minimum wage, which is $7.25 an hour full time, and nearly twice New York City’s minimum, which is a somewhat more. I don’t know if they were paying her in cash, which would make take home salary more, as she would probably not report it all. $37,500 is a perfectly respectable income, especially if she didn’t have extensive experience in the field, but we don’t even know if she was working full time, or not. Finally, she was not taking care of three kids all at once, according to various news reports. The whole point of hiring her was so that Marina Krim could spend time with her children individually, or with the older ones separately. And, remember, the oldest was in school all day. And if Ortega was unhappy, she could have quit — there’s always another job and another place to live, yes, even in this economy.
Why are you assuming their apartment costs $10,000 a month? News reports may state other three bedroom apartments in the same building rent for that amount, but that doesn’t mean the same applies to the Krim’s place. They could be in a rent stabilized unit, or CNBC can be footing their rent, which often happens when big companies bring employees to New York. After all, they were in that apartment less that three years, which is the average length of a lease. And how do you know they don’t have family money? Again, you’re making big assumptions.
I didn’t see the matching outfit photo, but, no, I don’t think it’s “creepy.” Big deal. You can read narcissism, self-centeredness, and the like into any behavior you don’t share. Instead of thinking the children were treated as “reflections,” pehaps you might think they were treated as part of a happy whole, as a show of togetherness. Really! You’re over-interpreting because of your own need to claim you’re raising your children well. Plus, plenty of stay-at-home moms have nannies, not because they want “my time,” but because they want each of their three children to have individual attention. You can’t bring a two-year-old to a swim class for a six-year-old without ignoring one child. Good for Marina Krim that she could afford it. Stop the jealousy.
(just to be clear – yes- I def think she is a sociopath!!!)
Hi Texas Mom…well from what I’ve read NPD is something that could easily entail psychotic behaviour. It’s a complete lack of empathy, a sense that they have been denied greatness or their “due” – and that they will resort to notoriety to get what “they deserve” – when this is delusional. It only affects 1% of the population…but by affect it’s not something you “get” – it’s, from everything I’ve read, something you “are” – and it’s not a mental illness. From what I’ve read people that do this will deflect blame…but I’m not a specialist – it’s just an opinion so I could easily be completely wrong. In any case, however it’s defined, I think she is pure evil, a psychotic monster like others in her ilk: Dahmer, Manson, SS, Hitler. Yes I think she’s that bad. I think it was unparalleled in it’s horror. And – really, Nothing will be punishment enough because nothing can bring those kids back and nothing can make that family whole again (and it’s affected Her son and her sisters). It’s just unbelievably sad (and my thoughts are also with the mom that lost her 5 year old daughter in a similar story this week – and the father of the 7 year old.)
I used to live in NYC. How much money does a VP at CNBC make? I cant imagine that Kevin Krim makes more than 300-400k a year. An apartment that costs 120k a year (with no mortgage tax deduction-since its rented). NYC taxes, NYS taxes, Fed taxs, Social Secuirty taxes, AND a stay-at-home wife who needs a nanny- what does that cost another 300-350 a week. Ths whole situation just doesnt add up.Why not have an apartment in Riverdale or Brooklyn that would run you 3500 a month. Why a nanny? It seems to me that there are SEVERE money problems there. I dont have any facts but the numbers dont add up.
Also, am I the only person who finds the posted photos of mother and kids in matching outfits to be creepy? I am a mother of a son and have never matched my outfit to his. Your children are individuals- not a reflection on yourself.
Obviously, this is a horrible tradegy. But I just keep looking- maybe unfairly- to the mother. Something here doesnt make sense.
I don’t care what her personal situation was, or WHAT happened in her life that led to this. The minute she made the choice to murder two innocent children, any sympathy or human compassion that I could feel went out the window. There is never an excuse for murdering two defenseless children.
Brit, I agree with most everything you’ve written. I’m not, however, clear as to why you see Ortega as a Narcissist, rather than a sociopath. Their exploitation and destructiveness are virtually indistinguishable, but Ortega plays the victim as well as any sociopath out there. I can’t believe all the wasted ink devoted to the pity party for a woman who savagely slashed and murdered two beautiful, innocent children. Do Narcissists play the victim and appeal for pity too?
$18.00 for taking care of three kids under the age of ten, she was severely underpaid.
Exactly. Mrs Krim was too kind-hearted; probably gave this nanny second chances because the nanny was constantly harping on her financial woes. She should have fired her from the get-go. So terrible. This nanny needs to be locked away for the rest of her life.
Who is Ms. Ortiz? What is the reporter smoking on the job?
Thanks Flea. Noted 🙂
You’re absolutely right. Who are the sources here? But even if Ortega had been told her attitude and behavior needed to change or she’d be fired, that’s not a negative. It’s acutally quite sweet of Marina Krim to give her a chance to improve. Plenty of parents would have gotten rid of a nanny for criticizing how they raised THEIR children, especially if the nanny became verbally belligerent, which was obviously the case, at least according to the Ortega herself. Marina is a trusting, kind, patient woman who believes in second chances — just the type to be exploited and even destroyed by the likes of evil Ortega.
I don’t know who writes this Scallywag blog, but it is very poorly written. You use many large words out of context and also making quite a few spelling mistakes. This makes me question your credibility…
Please edit your stories! It’s Ms. Ortega, not Ms. Ortiz, as mentioned above. I’ve been trying to keep up with this story fairly regularly, and have encountered such mistakes in so many articles. It’s hard as a reader to take you writers and your sites seriously.
Just where/what is the source that said the nanny was threatened with being fired? The nanny herself? Let’s hear the Krim’s side of the story. My heart goes out to that family and the terrible, horrible loss they have endured – I hope they keep the courage to keep on.
I agree with you. Are we supposed to feel sorry for this woman because she invested in fixtures in a home that was not hers to begin with? That she had to move? That she wanted her child to be in a private school that she could not afford? And she kills innocent babies and ruins a family’s life over her sick, jealous obsessions? I’ve lived in many rentals and didn’t sink money into “fixtures”. I’ve had to uproot my children and move a lot. My children are going to public schools, not private. I’ve had to work 2 jobs to make ends meet. The nanny is a horror, and deserves the most severe punishment the law will allow.
The parents would have given her everything they had – money, clothes, nice apartment, jobs, wealth – is nothing Nothing in comparison to someone’s children, which are beyond priceless. It been over a week and I’m still as upset about this as I was. She didn’t harm her Own child, no – just two defenseless, beautiful little children. How Dare she take their lives! I would – without question – execute her. I have said this before – but in my opinion, like Jeffrey Dahmer I think she will be said to have Narcissistic Personality Disorder – which is NOT a mental illness. She is psychotic and every time I think of what she did I get waves of pure anger and revulsion. Apart from the evil, the horror, the sheer all engulfing tragedy and sadness, the utter pointless waste of two beautiful children’s lives – she has ALSO ruined the parent’s lives beyond recovery – the Marina Krim must be going insane after witnessing that – the grandparents, the surviving sister (one say she will be old enough to understand what happened), the grandparents, the aunts and uncles…the list goes on. For WHAT?? – NOTHING but Jealousy and Spite and her own pathetic life. To say I hope she rots in hell is an understatement. Quite frankly, you probably can’t print what I think she fully deserves. She took one lovely family – kids that were Healthy and Loved – and because she wasn’t PAID enough to live the same lifestyle as her employees she inflicted a horror that is unparallelled. There are no words strong enough to express my disgust and horror. Sorry, for all the caps but this story is very very upsetting.