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Picture taken during annual ‘slut day’ walk.

What do you think of this sign?

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  • Guest

    Well, I agree with the women that no matter how they dress, that’s no excuse to rape them.  There are women, however, that have a very unique slant on all of this and the term I’ll use is retroactive rape.  For example, if I meet a woman at a bar, we have a drink or two and end up having 100% consensual sex, then, the next day the woman decides that she was raped because she clearly could not have consented to the sex because she had a drink or two.  I have seen this happen.  Although I guess the guy could argue the same thing from his standpoint, it’s normally the guy trying to get the girl and it is not typically the guy who would be the one to “cry rape”, when a woman does something like this it can potentially ruin a man’s life.  Women like this should be fed to the dogs because they are pretty much scum of the earth and there are plenty of them out there, so beware.

  • Eliana

    Jimmy, that is an interesting and valid point. I have to say, though, that I agree with Charlie 100%. I do not think that any woman deserves to be raped and depraved rapists probably are not influenced by a woman’s apparel, especially since rape isn’t even about sexual attraction, it’s about a deviant display of power. But in regards to date-rape situations, where “slutty” clothing and alcohol are related factors, women need to be proactive. If you don’t put yourself in dangerous situations (like being sloppy drunk and unable to make decisions about your own welfare or adequately detect peril) then you’re less likely to be targeted. That just seems like common sense to me. Bad things happen to people all of the time, why put yourself in a situation where you are at heightened risk of becoming a victim?

  • Jimmy

    Charlie makes (some) fine points, but it does not entirely jive with the facts. Apparently, there is still no data suggesting that a woman can decrease her risk of being raped by choosing appropriate clothing. According to http://www.crisisconnectioninc.org, the most commonly worn items of clothing worn by rape victims are jeans and a t-shirt or sweatshirt.

  • Charlie

    As a side note, rapists aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. They will always be among us. The woman with the sign is ignoring the fact that measures can be taken to lessen the risk of rape. Those measures should be taken, for the safety of the individual, because bad people (rapists) are a threat.

  • Charlie

    An honorable sentiment, but a little bit naive and foolish. Every human takes precautions in everyday life to lessen the chances of bad people doing bad things to them. I wear a seatbelt and drive defensively. When I’m in a shitty neighborhood my behavior is adjusted to reflect the need for heightened situational awareness. Etc Etc.

    Likewise, women who drink themselves sloppy while wearing revealing clothing then wander around alone at night are conducting themselves in a manner that invites bad things to happen to them. I live very near a private university, and I see shit like this all the time. Female empowerment groups talk about how you should be able to wear whatever you want and drink as much as you want without having to worry about getting raped. And they’re right, you should be able to, in a perfect world. Unfortunately, we live in an imperfect world. That’s not a “she was asking for it” argument. Rape is never acceptable. And she’s right, the only thing that directly causes rape are sick twisted people, rapists themselves. But a problem develops when women use this reality to disregard basic safety measures and put themselves at risk. In a sense, your drinking and skimpy clothes do cause rape, because the situation you end up putting yourself in is a very vulnerable one. You are voluntarily making yourself victimizable (new word!) through your own self-serving and irresponsible actions.

    In the end, if a woman gets sloppy drunk and wanders through a shitty neighborhood naked (let’s extend the logic to an extreme for demonstration purposes), and she gets raped, whose fault is it? Obviously, it’s the rapist’s fault. But is ALSO that woman’s fault, for putting herself in a dangerous situation in the first place. We must live with reality. If you don;t want your car stolen, lock the doors. If you don’t want to get raped, don’t get smashed and pass out in the bushes.